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Relatedly, I would really like to have the opposite: a tiny x86 board that fits in a USB port (for my M1 Mac). It turns out that despite Rosetta 2, full-system

by titzer 4y ago

Relatedly, I would really like to have the opposite: a tiny x86 board that fits in a USB port (for my M1 Mac). It turns out that despite Rosetta 2, full-system emulation of x86 on M1 is still quite crappy, and it'd be great to have a full-blown Linux machine at hand. I experimented with an x86-based ZenPhone...works OK, but that particular CPU was missing some SSE features that I need for my testing. Anyone know of a something in this vein for x86?

lostmsu 4y ago
Is there no hardware-assisted virtualization software on M1 capable of running Linux? O-o
coupdejarnac 4y ago
There are mini stick PCs that are complete computers that go into a USB port for around $150.
- okaram 4y ago
  Can you point to one? Usually the stick PCs will connect to an HDMI monitor, and may get power from USB, but this seems a different use case.
  - coupdejarnac 4y ago
    You're correct in that they only get power from USB. The HDMI sticks could display on the laptop with a HDMI-USB adapter. A slightly clunky but viable way to have a small, portable x86 computer.
bigiain 4y ago
Heh. Everything that goes around comes around… I used to have a Mac6100 DOS Compatible, which was a regular PowerPC Mac, with a daughter board that had a complete 486DX2/66 system on it capable of running DOS/Win3.1/Win95. (These days, I have an Intel NUC on my network to run everything that works better on x86 or Docker…)
nl 4y ago
Why does it need to fit in the USB instead of being accessible via network? But if you really want this, I think the toybrick-rk1808 machine learning stick does this, although it is ARM not x86 Linux. "It is equipped with Rockchip RK1808 Neural Processing Unit (NPU) features an accelerator delivering up to 3.0 TOPS and is coupled with two low-power Arm Cortex-A35 cores allowing it to run Linux." https://core-electronics.com.au/toybrick-rk1808-ai-usb-compute-stick-for-deep-learning-up-to-3-tops-powered-by-rockchip-npu.html https://core-electronics.com.au/toybrick-rk1808-ai-usb-compu... And in the manual look for the documentation about "master mode": > RK1808 AI compute stick with fedora operation system, Users can log in the fedora system for development and debugging via ssh. Root user’s and normal user’s password both are “toybrick”. https://core-electronics.com.au/attachments/localcontent/RK1808_AI_Compute_Stick_User_manual_EN_296228c300d.pdf https://core-electronics.com.au/attachments/localcontent/RK1...
- titzer 4y ago
  For my use case, it needs to be x86.

by titzer 4y ago

lostmsu 4y ago

Is there no hardware-assisted virtualization software on M1 capable of running Linux? O-o

coupdejarnac 4y ago

There are mini stick PCs that are complete computers that go into a USB port for around $150.

okaram 4y ago
Can you point to one? Usually the stick PCs will connect to an HDMI monitor, and may get power from USB, but this seems a different use case.
- coupdejarnac 4y ago
  You're correct in that they only get power from USB. The HDMI sticks could display on the laptop with a HDMI-USB adapter. A slightly clunky but viable way to have a small, portable x86 computer.

bigiain 4y ago

Heh. Everything that goes around comes around… I used to have a Mac6100 DOS Compatible, which was a regular PowerPC Mac, with a daughter board that had a complete 486DX2/66 system on it capable of running DOS/Win3.1/Win95. (These days, I have an Intel NUC on my network to run everything that works better on x86 or Docker…)

nl 4y ago

Why does it need to fit in the USB instead of being accessible via network? But if you really want this, I think the toybrick-rk1808 machine learning stick does this, although it is ARM not x86 Linux. "It is equipped with Rockchip RK1808 Neural Processing Unit (NPU) features an accelerator delivering up to 3.0 TOPS and is coupled with two low-power Arm Cortex-A35 cores allowing it to run Linux." https://core-electronics.com.au/toybrick-rk1808-ai-usb-compute-stick-for-deep-learning-up-to-3-tops-powered-by-rockchip-npu.html https://core-electronics.com.au/toybrick-rk1808-ai-usb-compu... And in the manual look for the documentation about "master mode": > RK1808 AI compute stick with fedora operation system, Users can log in the fedora system for development and debugging via ssh. Root user’s and normal user’s password both are “toybrick”. https://core-electronics.com.au/attachments/localcontent/RK1808_AI_Compute_Stick_User_manual_EN_296228c300d.pdf https://core-electronics.com.au/attachments/localcontent/RK1...

titzer 4y ago
For my use case, it needs to be x86.