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Can't agree. A signed contract is a promise. Reneging on your promise says only bad things about you. Meta's management famously lacks character. Please don

Can't agree. A signed contract is a promise. Reneging on your promise says only bad things about you. Meta's management famously lacks character. Please don't use them as a baseline for right and wrong.

OkayPhysicist 4y ago
Corporations are incapable of engaging in right and wrong.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  Why do people repeat this corporate propaganda, against your own interests? Just think about it a little; it's nonsense in every aspect.
  - OkayPhysicist 4y ago
    A corporation is like a computer program. It has a purpose (making loads of money), and a methodology to follow to do so. If a computer program wiped your harddrive, fried your CPU, and burnt your house down, you wouldn't swear a vendetta against the software, you'd hold the person who wrote it to account. Likewise, corporations are automatons. If a corporation does evil, it's because its leadership is evil. As automatons, corporations cannot have morals, because they simply follow their programming. You, a flesh and blood human, should feel no obligation to a corporation for any actions they take, for the same reason you don't write letters to a bollard thanking it for stopping a car that might have hit you.
    - seti0Cha 4y ago
      It's interesting that so many people vociferously deny that corporations are people, yet just as many seem to habitually ascribe motives and moral character to them, and hate or love them as if they are, in fact, people. Maybe this is a disjoint set, but I doubt it.
      - Shish2k 4y ago
        When I say corporations aren’t people, I mean that in a literal sense, with implications such as “corporations shouldn’t be given human rights” (I’m sure there are some rights which do make sense for both humans and corporations, but it’s not 1:1) When I say corporations have motives, that is shorthand for “the human leadership of this company has motives which control their decision making and cause them to make decisions which point the corporation in a certain direction”
        seti0Cha 4y ago
        Ok, but that same shorthand can, and arguably should be, applied to whatever situation caused you to say "corporations shouldn't be given human rights".
    - wolverine876 4y ago
      I know the argument. It's propaganda, a theory by Milton Friedman taken to an extreme, starting (IIRC) in the 1980s. Just look into it a little, think about it a little. It's paper thin.
cheriot 4y ago
Meta is hardly the only the first tech company to rescind offers. Yes, it's poor form and rightfully burns a bridge, but it's not a contract. Let's not expect people to treat employers any better than employers treat people.
humanistbot 4y ago
> A signed contract is a promise. Most contracts in the tech industry are at-will in both directions with usually only 2 or 4 weeks notice (if any).
- jfk13 4y ago
  In your country, perhaps so. Not in mine.
pclmulqdq 4y ago
This view is really popular, but totally wrong if you take the view of a business (or a capitalist ideologue). In that frame of reference, a contract is something that might cost money to break, not a high and mighty promise.

OkayPhysicist 4y ago

Corporations are incapable of engaging in right and wrong.

wolverine876 4y ago
Why do people repeat this corporate propaganda, against your own interests? Just think about it a little; it's nonsense in every aspect.
- OkayPhysicist 4y ago
  A corporation is like a computer program. It has a purpose (making loads of money), and a methodology to follow to do so. If a computer program wiped your harddrive, fried your CPU, and burnt your house down, you wouldn't swear a vendetta against the software, you'd hold the person who wrote it to account. Likewise, corporations are automatons. If a corporation does evil, it's because its leadership is evil. As automatons, corporations cannot have morals, because they simply follow their programming. You, a flesh and blood human, should feel no obligation to a corporation for any actions they take, for the same reason you don't write letters to a bollard thanking it for stopping a car that might have hit you.
  - seti0Cha 4y ago
    It's interesting that so many people vociferously deny that corporations are people, yet just as many seem to habitually ascribe motives and moral character to them, and hate or love them as if they are, in fact, people. Maybe this is a disjoint set, but I doubt it.
    - Shish2k 4y ago
      When I say corporations aren’t people, I mean that in a literal sense, with implications such as “corporations shouldn’t be given human rights” (I’m sure there are some rights which do make sense for both humans and corporations, but it’s not 1:1) When I say corporations have motives, that is shorthand for “the human leadership of this company has motives which control their decision making and cause them to make decisions which point the corporation in a certain direction”
      - seti0Cha 4y ago
        Ok, but that same shorthand can, and arguably should be, applied to whatever situation caused you to say "corporations shouldn't be given human rights".
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    I know the argument. It's propaganda, a theory by Milton Friedman taken to an extreme, starting (IIRC) in the 1980s. Just look into it a little, think about it a little. It's paper thin.

cheriot 4y ago

Meta is hardly the only the first tech company to rescind offers. Yes, it's poor form and rightfully burns a bridge, but it's not a contract. Let's not expect people to treat employers any better than employers treat people.

humanistbot 4y ago

> A signed contract is a promise. Most contracts in the tech industry are at-will in both directions with usually only 2 or 4 weeks notice (if any).

jfk13 4y ago
In your country, perhaps so. Not in mine.

pclmulqdq 4y ago

This view is really popular, but totally wrong if you take the view of a business (or a capitalist ideologue). In that frame of reference, a contract is something that might cost money to break, not a high and mighty promise.