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If you read past that you'd have seen why I was actually arguing against it and due to the bigger issue I see in our justice system. But yes, there are people o

If you read past that you'd have seen why I was actually arguing against it and due to the bigger issue I see in our justice system. But yes, there are people out there like me that do support capital punishment for various reasons/conditions; sorry to upset you about that news.

giraffe_lady 4y ago
It's not news that there is evil, but it continues to surprise me that people are proud to engage in it.
- conductr 4y ago
  Ok I'm just stating my thoughts and discussing. I think if you want to retort in this manner, you probably should head over to Reddit
  - giraffe_lady 4y ago
    No this is good. Part of the villainy of this place is that as long as it's "just discussion" and you keep a controlled tone, you can call for whatever viciousness and violence you want. And you can! I can't stop you. But I can also point out that you can be seen when you do this, and my assessment isn't less valid because the idea of stomping out human lives is abhorrent to me.
    - conductr 4y ago
      It ceases to be just discussion when you call me evil and vicious and sick world view. It's fine if you disagree in a more productive manner. I wasn't even trying to take a stance; I stated my stance and you attacked. /end
    - BitwiseFool 4y ago
      >"Part of the villainy of this place" What do you mean by this?
      - giraffe_lady 4y ago
        The social norms of HN create an environment where you can endorse or advocate for atrocities as long as you do it in a certain detached, academic-lite tone. Things like eugenics, sweatshop labor, colonialism, retributive actions towards homeless people, are all things I've seen argued for and upvoted on this site in the last six months. Being upset by these things, or admitting a personal stake in not seeing them continue or come to pass in the world, is seen as the moral transgression instead. This could arguably be a valuable norm in a place specifically set aside for people to practice opposing each other's positions, like a debate club, say. But that's not the purpose here, and routinely acting in this way, maintaining this environment as a value distances us from our humanity and that of other people.

giraffe_lady 4y ago

It's not news that there is evil, but it continues to surprise me that people are proud to engage in it.

conductr 4y ago
Ok I'm just stating my thoughts and discussing. I think if you want to retort in this manner, you probably should head over to Reddit
- giraffe_lady 4y ago
  No this is good. Part of the villainy of this place is that as long as it's "just discussion" and you keep a controlled tone, you can call for whatever viciousness and violence you want. And you can! I can't stop you. But I can also point out that you can be seen when you do this, and my assessment isn't less valid because the idea of stomping out human lives is abhorrent to me.
  - conductr 4y ago
    It ceases to be just discussion when you call me evil and vicious and sick world view. It's fine if you disagree in a more productive manner. I wasn't even trying to take a stance; I stated my stance and you attacked. /end
  - BitwiseFool 4y ago
    >"Part of the villainy of this place" What do you mean by this?
    - giraffe_lady 4y ago
      The social norms of HN create an environment where you can endorse or advocate for atrocities as long as you do it in a certain detached, academic-lite tone. Things like eugenics, sweatshop labor, colonialism, retributive actions towards homeless people, are all things I've seen argued for and upvoted on this site in the last six months. Being upset by these things, or admitting a personal stake in not seeing them continue or come to pass in the world, is seen as the moral transgression instead. This could arguably be a valuable norm in a place specifically set aside for people to practice opposing each other's positions, like a debate club, say. But that's not the purpose here, and routinely acting in this way, maintaining this environment as a value distances us from our humanity and that of other people.