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Dear god please no, electric stoves are awful and idgaf about my lungs.

by s17n 4y ago

asveikau 4y ago
Depending on where you live you may be out of luck in the future. Some places are requiring them in new construction. Including California.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  Hope that comes with a price drop. Gas is the only option right now if you want cheap and well-performing. Last I checked (maybe a year ago?) the cheapest induction ranges were well into the middle tier of prices. Which makes the fact that I keep seeing stuff about their tending to stop working after only a few years, or suffering from very-fragile surfaces that are easy to crack and ruin, even more of a turn-off.
  - jerlam 4y ago
    Maybe the ranges are cheap. But the price of natural gas has soared over the past year. Right now, it's cheap again, but it seems that prices are a lot more volatile than electricity, which will benefit from alternative sources of production and storage.
    - weaksauce 4y ago
      in socal the price of natgas is soaring. they expect this next month to be 3x more expensive than last month which was also more expensive than before. went from $27 to $75 and probably now going to be $200+ for the same amount of use. we'll see. https://www.ocregister.com/2023/01/06/your-natural-gas-bills-to-jump-shockingly-high-across-region-socalgas-warns/ https://www.ocregister.com/2023/01/06/your-natural-gas-bills...
- econonut 4y ago
  Yes, gas stoves are an unfortunate victim of climate policies enacted at the local level as city governments aim to ban all natural gas appliances in new construction in their misguided attempt to save the planet. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty they can do, but banning gas stoves is a ridiculous overstep.
  - jeffbee 4y ago
    Cities are able to take this action because they know they have no intention of building anything ever again, so the impact to actual residents and voters is zero. I should know: my city of Berkeley was the first to ban them. It is pure greenwashing. The final insult is single-family home construction and remodel can elect to use gas if they want.
    - econonut 4y ago
      That's fine for your city, but sucks for those of us living in the midwest. I can't speak for every city, but our growing city likes to model its policies after CA policies, so we get thousands of newly built electric-only homes & apartments.
      - jeffbee 4y ago
        Well, if your city adopts every dumb idea from Berkeley, that's on you guys. I thought everyone knew we are nuts.
      - midoridensha 4y ago
        >but our growing city likes to model its policies after CA policies Who elects your city leaders? This is your own fault. If your city liked to model its policies after Russian policies, or Saudi Arabian policies, would that be those countries' fault?
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      > Cities are able to take this action because they know they have no intention of building anything ever again, California cities don’t, since their choice now is between “approve enough new housing voluntarily” or “lose the ability to reject new housing entirely”. Builder's remedy expansion under the Housing Crisis Act of 2019 has changed the landscape fundamentally.
lukev 4y ago
This is true for resistive electric stoves, which "pulse" on and off to achieve a certain heat level. Truly frustrating to cook with. Modern induction stoves are much better (even better than gas, I hear, though I haven't used them extensively yet.)
- jeffbee 4y ago
  Induction ranges are almost all really bad except at the very high end. I have one that will intermittently scorch a 4-inch diameter annulus in the center of the pan while leaving everything else untouched. The only thing it's practical for is boiling water, which is enough of a benefit for me to justify its existence.
  - llsf 4y ago
    My dad is a professional cook (retired, but used to own a restaurant in France). He only uses induction. While he did not get the cheapest one, he did not take the high end either. One thing to consider is that quality of the pans and pots. Nowadays while they are all induction friendly, some provide a better heat distribution than other. If asking my dad, the main benefit he sees is the control.
- yellow_postit 4y ago
  What have you found challenging to cook? I moved from gas to glass top electric and had heard horror stories (had always had gas stoves before) but despite regularly cooking meals for the family I haven’t run into anything problematic beyond worrying my cast iron will scratch the glass top (no issues so far).
  - reddog 4y ago
    I had a lot of trouble cooking on a halogen electic -- pulse on, pulse off -- stove and all those problems went away when I got an induction. For years I thought I was a terrible cook but it was always that terrible electric cooktop. The only thing that cooktop did well was boil water. The most frustating thing I tried to cook was good, crispy hashbrowns. Believe me, I tried everything and the results were always soggy, greasy horror. When I switched to induction (and replaced all my non-ferrous pans) the results were perfect everytime.
sliken 4y ago
Electric stoves used to suck, low powered, annoying, and they made temperature control difficult. New induction units are more powerful than gas, respond more quickly, and have temperature based controls. So you can blast and boil a quart of water more quickly, or set it to temperature and it will quickly approach it and maintain it, no more melted pots. With induction the heat (or lack of) is literally inside the pot/pan. So it's already ahead of any combustion outside the pot/pan. Granted not much, but still it's not behind. Also crazy easier to clean, nice flat surface, and there's not much heat outside the pot/pan to cook stuff on.

Dear god please no, electric stoves are awful and idgaf about my lungs.

by s17n 4y ago

Dear god please no, electric stoves are awful and idgaf about my lungs.

Depending on where you live you may be out of luck in the future. Some places are requiring them in new construction. Including California.

yamtaddle 4y ago
Hope that comes with a price drop. Gas is the only option right now if you want cheap and well-performing. Last I checked (maybe a year ago?) the cheapest induction ranges were well into the middle tier of prices. Which makes the fact that I keep seeing stuff about their tending to stop working after only a few years, or suffering from very-fragile surfaces that are easy to crack and ruin, even more of a turn-off.
- jerlam 4y ago
  Maybe the ranges are cheap. But the price of natural gas has soared over the past year. Right now, it's cheap again, but it seems that prices are a lot more volatile than electricity, which will benefit from alternative sources of production and storage.
  - weaksauce 4y ago
    in socal the price of natgas is soaring. they expect this next month to be 3x more expensive than last month which was also more expensive than before. went from $27 to $75 and probably now going to be $200+ for the same amount of use. we'll see. https://www.ocregister.com/2023/01/06/your-natural-gas-bills-to-jump-shockingly-high-across-region-socalgas-warns/ https://www.ocregister.com/2023/01/06/your-natural-gas-bills...
econonut 4y ago
Yes, gas stoves are an unfortunate victim of climate policies enacted at the local level as city governments aim to ban all natural gas appliances in new construction in their misguided attempt to save the planet. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty they can do, but banning gas stoves is a ridiculous overstep.
- jeffbee 4y ago
  Cities are able to take this action because they know they have no intention of building anything ever again, so the impact to actual residents and voters is zero. I should know: my city of Berkeley was the first to ban them. It is pure greenwashing. The final insult is single-family home construction and remodel can elect to use gas if they want.
  - econonut 4y ago
    That's fine for your city, but sucks for those of us living in the midwest. I can't speak for every city, but our growing city likes to model its policies after CA policies, so we get thousands of newly built electric-only homes & apartments.
    - jeffbee 4y ago
      Well, if your city adopts every dumb idea from Berkeley, that's on you guys. I thought everyone knew we are nuts.
    - midoridensha 4y ago
      >but our growing city likes to model its policies after CA policies Who elects your city leaders? This is your own fault. If your city liked to model its policies after Russian policies, or Saudi Arabian policies, would that be those countries' fault?
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Cities are able to take this action because they know they have no intention of building anything ever again, California cities don’t, since their choice now is between “approve enough new housing voluntarily” or “lose the ability to reject new housing entirely”. Builder's remedy expansion under the Housing Crisis Act of 2019 has changed the landscape fundamentally.

lukev 4y ago

This is true for resistive electric stoves, which "pulse" on and off to achieve a certain heat level. Truly frustrating to cook with. Modern induction stoves are much better (even better than gas, I hear, though I haven't used them extensively yet.)

jeffbee 4y ago
Induction ranges are almost all really bad except at the very high end. I have one that will intermittently scorch a 4-inch diameter annulus in the center of the pan while leaving everything else untouched. The only thing it's practical for is boiling water, which is enough of a benefit for me to justify its existence.
- llsf 4y ago
  My dad is a professional cook (retired, but used to own a restaurant in France). He only uses induction. While he did not get the cheapest one, he did not take the high end either. One thing to consider is that quality of the pans and pots. Nowadays while they are all induction friendly, some provide a better heat distribution than other. If asking my dad, the main benefit he sees is the control.
yellow_postit 4y ago
What have you found challenging to cook? I moved from gas to glass top electric and had heard horror stories (had always had gas stoves before) but despite regularly cooking meals for the family I haven’t run into anything problematic beyond worrying my cast iron will scratch the glass top (no issues so far).
- reddog 4y ago
  I had a lot of trouble cooking on a halogen electic -- pulse on, pulse off -- stove and all those problems went away when I got an induction. For years I thought I was a terrible cook but it was always that terrible electric cooktop. The only thing that cooktop did well was boil water. The most frustating thing I tried to cook was good, crispy hashbrowns. Believe me, I tried everything and the results were always soggy, greasy horror. When I switched to induction (and replaced all my non-ferrous pans) the results were perfect everytime.

sliken 4y ago

Electric stoves used to suck, low powered, annoying, and they made temperature control difficult. New induction units are more powerful than gas, respond more quickly, and have temperature based controls. So you can blast and boil a quart of water more quickly, or set it to temperature and it will quickly approach it and maintain it, no more melted pots. With induction the heat (or lack of) is literally inside the pot/pan. So it's already ahead of any combustion outside the pot/pan. Granted not much, but still it's not behind. Also crazy easier to clean, nice flat surface, and there's not much heat outside the pot/pan to cook stuff on.