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The thing a lot of folks seem to miss is that it isn't just D&D using the OGL, there are non-D&D games (such as Fate, Fudge. Etc) which license themselves using

The thing a lot of folks seem to miss is that it isn't just D&D using the OGL, there are non-D&D games (such as Fate, Fudge. Etc) which license themselves using the OGL.

the_af 4y ago
Hmm, so no connection at all to D&D? Does this affect them at all, then? What benefits do they draw from using the OGL at all?
- mcv 4y ago
  It just seemed like a good license to use to allow others to build on their games. Just like it's not just the FSF distributing original software under the GPL.
  - the_af 4y ago
    But the FSF is never a competing business (it's not a business) and the GPL doesn't grant the FSF any rights over your stuff. So the OGL is not really analogous.
    - krisoft 4y ago
      > and the GPL doesn't grant the FSF any rights over your stuff Neither did the version of OGL they published their stuff over. Imagine that the FSF goes crazy and writes a new version of GPL which gives them ius primae noctis, and also in the same new version they state the previous old version is no longer valid. That is the approximate analogy here.
      - the_af 4y ago
        But that's not how the existing license works, so who cares about any new GPL license? Unless you explicitly said "I want my work under the GPL or whatever crazy new version of the GPL ever exists", with the extra detail that the GPL is designed by a business competitor who is jealous of your success. It'd be crazy.
- Karrot_Kream 4y ago
  Other communities were also concerned about the core team trying to take control of the system/assets. The Fate core folks specifically went with OGL to allay those concerns.
  - the_af 4y ago
    So are you saying the license is good (or so they thought) for third-parties making modules or content for any OGL-licensed game?
  - trynewideas 4y ago
    Fate Core is dual-licensed under the OGL and CC-BY. https://www.faterpg.com/licensing/licensing-fate-cc-by/ https://www.faterpg.com/licensing/licensing-fate-cc-by/
cool_dude85 4y ago
But they don't need to update the license they use, right? So the other games can just issue their existing and current material with the existing license and it's all good?
- Tyr42 4y ago
  So, the exact wording of the license includes a clause saying you can distribute under "any authorized version" of the OGL. I dont think people expected wizard's to try and interpretation that as something they can try and revoke. But they are trying and it might go to court.

The thing a lot of folks seem to miss is that it isn't just D&D using the OGL, there are non-D&D games (such as Fate, Fudge. Etc) which license themselves using the OGL.

the_af 4y ago

Hmm, so no connection at all to D&D? Does this affect them at all, then? What benefits do they draw from using the OGL at all?

mcv 4y ago
It just seemed like a good license to use to allow others to build on their games. Just like it's not just the FSF distributing original software under the GPL.
- the_af 4y ago
  But the FSF is never a competing business (it's not a business) and the GPL doesn't grant the FSF any rights over your stuff. So the OGL is not really analogous.
  - krisoft 4y ago
    > and the GPL doesn't grant the FSF any rights over your stuff Neither did the version of OGL they published their stuff over. Imagine that the FSF goes crazy and writes a new version of GPL which gives them ius primae noctis, and also in the same new version they state the previous old version is no longer valid. That is the approximate analogy here.
    - the_af 4y ago
      But that's not how the existing license works, so who cares about any new GPL license? Unless you explicitly said "I want my work under the GPL or whatever crazy new version of the GPL ever exists", with the extra detail that the GPL is designed by a business competitor who is jealous of your success. It'd be crazy.
Karrot_Kream 4y ago
Other communities were also concerned about the core team trying to take control of the system/assets. The Fate core folks specifically went with OGL to allay those concerns.
- the_af 4y ago
  So are you saying the license is good (or so they thought) for third-parties making modules or content for any OGL-licensed game?
- trynewideas 4y ago
  Fate Core is dual-licensed under the OGL and CC-BY. https://www.faterpg.com/licensing/licensing-fate-cc-by/ https://www.faterpg.com/licensing/licensing-fate-cc-by/

cool_dude85 4y ago

But they don't need to update the license they use, right? So the other games can just issue their existing and current material with the existing license and it's all good?

Tyr42 4y ago
So, the exact wording of the license includes a clause saying you can distribute under "any authorized version" of the OGL. I dont think people expected wizard's to try and interpretation that as something they can try and revoke. But they are trying and it might go to court.