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Can you provide any source for supporting that claim?

• meindnoch 4y ago
  https://twitter.com/ziontree/status/1497998920739274757 https://twitter.com/ziontree/status/1497998920739274757
  • miguelazo 4y ago
    I love that the Guardian article in that thread cites the head of NATO's statements as proof of Russian involvement. This is even lazier than Russiagate.
    • mannerheim 4y ago
      And that makes the rest of the thread irrelevant? Here's Nord Stream AG directly saying they provided funding for WWF and BUND. https://www.nord-stream.com/press-info/press-releases/conservation-foundation-german-baltic-established-315/ https://www.nord-stream.com/press-info/press-releases/conser...
      • JumpCrisscross 4y ago
        > Nord Stream AG directly saying they provided funding for WWF and BUND That looks more like greenwashing than having a hand in promoting misinformation.
        • mannerheim 4y ago
          BUND specifically states that they never opposed to construction of the Nord Stream pipeline, because they viewed natural gas as a good alternative to nuclear: https://twitter.com/simonwakter/status/1498228873682690050 https://twitter.com/simonwakter/status/1498228873682690050
      • miguelazo 4y ago
        And? There's nothing here denouncing nuclear. Also, Nord Stream AG? You mean the Swiss holding company of which Gazprom is a partner? So the millions of dollars that Exxon, Chevron, etc. have spent on misinformation to undermine climate change concerns over the decades implicates the US government as well?
        • mannerheim 4y ago
          Who owns Nord Stream AG?
    • consumer451 4y ago
      > This is even lazier than Russiagate. What do you mean by Russiagate exactly? (As in, which one?)
      • miguelazo 4y ago
        The main one-- Trump is a Kremlin asset, etc.
        • consumer451 4y ago
          Wow, well as someone who straddles the US and EU, he sure as heck seemed to be extremely pro-Putin at the very least, and Putin was very clearly very pro-Trump. Whether Putin has kompromat/direct control of Trump is unknown, what is clearly known is that Putin and Russian nationalists much preferred Trump in charge. I cannot find a single thing that Trump said which is negative about Putin, and Putin is a man who considers the USA his greatest enemy. I honestly did not think it was debatable at this point that Putin's and Trump's interests were very vocally aligned. It's like you and I live in different multi-verses yet are somehow communicating. How truly bizarre. This has to be one of the most blatant moments: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812
          • mannerheim 4y ago
            There were a couple actions Trump did during his presidency that directly hurt Putin, namely the sanctions on Nord Stream 2 that caused Allseas to drop out of the project and delaying the completion of the pipeline for some time. The EU was quite upset by this. He also criticised Europeans for not meeting NATO defence obligations, although whether he would have been fine with them just increasing their expenditures or if this was just a rhetorical point to find support for leaving NATO is perhaps only known to him.
            • miguelazo 4y ago
              On these points I agree with you! The idea that Trump was a Russian asset is laughable given his own actions in office, not to mention many of his appointments. He certainly admired Putin, but that's due to his own psychology rather than any supposed dirt they had on him.
• preisschild 4y ago
  Tinne Van der Straeten (Belgiums Minister of Energy) was a former lobbyist for Gazprom.