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Let me describe the ways bills die: 1. They don't get voted out of committee. That's the case with this bill. 2. All bills die at the end of each session. Thi
by jmyeet 4y ago
Let me describe the ways bills die:
1. They don't get voted out of committee. That's the case with this bill.
2. All bills die at the end of each session. This bill was from 2021 so had it been voted out of committee it would've died anyway;
3. After getting out of committee it has to be tabled for a vote for the full body (House or Senate). In the House the Speaker sets the agenda. In the Senate, it needs to be brought to the floor but ther ehas to be a vote to end debate and vote on the bill. Current Senate rules require 60 (of 100) votes to end debate. The filibuster allows pretty much any Senator to say they'll filibuster and that's that (unless you can get 60 votes). Note: these rules aren't laid out by the Constintution or anything. They're all just completely made up;
4. If a bill is somehow sponsored, assigned to committee, voted out of committee, brought to the floor, debate is ended and the bill is voted on and passed then it must pass the other chamber. That other chamber gets to amend it however they like. A chamber can spike a bill by adding amendments that those who otherwise might vote for the bill can't politically support;
5. If the bill miraculously passes the other chamber it'll probably be different than the original. A conference from both chambers come together to resolve the differences. They'll agree on a bill that'll go to a straight up or down vote in both chambers (ie no amendments).
6. Should that happen and it passes both chambers it goes to the president. The president can veto it directly. Alternatively, the president can "pocket veto", meaning they just let it expire (in 10 days). Or they can sign it;
7. If it is vetoed including a pocket veto it goes back to Congress who can override that veto with a two-thirds vote. Generally this never happens because if it's obvious it will happen a president would rather sign it.
I poin tthis out to say that a lot of times bills will get introduced that have no chance of ever becoming law. Years ago, whichever party was in the minority would always put forward campaign finance reform bills so they could campaign on the issue but they'd almost never be seen again when that same party got into the majority.
You're going to see a lot of this in the current Congress. The narrowly-controlled House is going to vote on a lot of bills for political reasons that they know are going to die on the Senate floor (ie never come to a vote). And that's why people will vote for it: because it has no chance of becoming law.
You also see this in votes. Any vote will largely be (almost) unanimous for, (almost) unanimous against (these rarely come to a vote but it applies to amendments too), narrowly for or narrowly against. Part of this is the propensity for voting on party lines but that's not all of it.
If a given Senator or Congressmen is vulnerable in a coming election, they may get the silent nod from leadership to vote for or against it when it doesn't change the outcome. So instead of a 58-42 Senator vote, you'll see 51-49 as certain Senators will get political cover to "defect" but it's not really defecting at all.
Introducing a bill is almost never news of consequence.
- jfengel 4y agoThis is all correct. One other thing I'd note about this bill: no cosponsors. Cosponsors play no formal role, but cosponsors get to take credit if a bill passes. No cosponsors suggests nobody wants to take credit. If you can get a cosponsor from the opposite party, it means there's at least some interest on the opposite side. And if you can't even get a cosponsor on your own side, it implies that nobody really cares. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing to do. It's a statement by that legislator of what they believe in. It's a stake in the ground -- one that somebody could use against you if many of your constituents don't like it. So it's not hypocritical or valueless. But it helps to know more of the context of the actual legislative process, which is a lot more than you learned on Schoolhouse Rock.