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It really only goes that fast on even stretches, of which there are plenty in northern & east Germany, and you literally need minutes to get there - downhill yo

It really only goes that fast on even stretches, of which there are plenty in northern & east Germany, and you literally need minutes to get there - downhill you can go a bit faster, but that gets scary quick. As soon as there is even a slight incline it starts to slow down, thats true. And I'm talking about the LPG version with 90 PS! Thats why you want to floor it: "Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch ich Gewalt."

jacquesm 4y ago
> Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch ich Gewalt. That had me laughing. Funny story: I once, long ago in the corridor stopped to help a bunch of people in a Trabant, the engine had seized and it really wasn't going to go anywhere so I offered to tow them behind my 230E, which could easily do that. They agreed happily and we hooked them up, and one of their party switched to my car to show me where to go (illegal to go off the corridor, but screw it, this had massive consequences later on but at the time I was still totally oblivious). So we're back on the highway and doing 50 or so and the guy asks 'can't you go any faster?'. I say sure, but what about the tow? 'They will have to follow ;)'. Ok, so doing a 110 or so (where you could legally go maybe 90 at the time) for an hour took us to Frankfurt a/d Oder where they lived, I dropped them off at home and the guy that drove the Trabbi came to me and said that they'd never gone that fast with it before... Good times. Obviously, for East Germans before the wende there was a lot of misery (same in Poland, my destination) but there was also a strong camaraderie, 'us against the system'.
- MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
  Lovely story! I can see how 110 is scary in a Trabi, especially so considering the state the roads were in. > there was also a strong camaraderie, 'us against the system' I think this is what gets lost in prosperity, and what causes some of the current spiritual misery. You simply don't need other people anymore if you have enough money, which in turn destroys community. Maybe the land of plenty is a dystopia, and we're not meant to live like this for extended periods of time.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Yes, this is very true. The same in Poland. Now it's dog-eat-dog. The difference is night and day and obviously there are many gains but also there are some remarkable losses and this is one of them.
  - CadmiumYellow 4y ago
    This is such an interesting point. When people have something to lose they turn inwards with the goal of protecting what they have. There's something to be said about how people can connect when nobody has resources to guard. Maybe this is part of why kids and college students can form such easy camaraderie compared to adults.
    - MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
      It all starts to make more sense once you see friendships as temporary alliances.

jacquesm 4y ago

> Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch ich Gewalt. That had me laughing. Funny story: I once, long ago in the corridor stopped to help a bunch of people in a Trabant, the engine had seized and it really wasn't going to go anywhere so I offered to tow them behind my 230E, which could easily do that. They agreed happily and we hooked them up, and one of their party switched to my car to show me where to go (illegal to go off the corridor, but screw it, this had massive consequences later on but at the time I was still totally oblivious). So we're back on the highway and doing 50 or so and the guy asks 'can't you go any faster?'. I say sure, but what about the tow? 'They will have to follow ;)'. Ok, so doing a 110 or so (where you could legally go maybe 90 at the time) for an hour took us to Frankfurt a/d Oder where they lived, I dropped them off at home and the guy that drove the Trabbi came to me and said that they'd never gone that fast with it before... Good times. Obviously, for East Germans before the wende there was a lot of misery (same in Poland, my destination) but there was also a strong camaraderie, 'us against the system'.

MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
Lovely story! I can see how 110 is scary in a Trabi, especially so considering the state the roads were in. > there was also a strong camaraderie, 'us against the system' I think this is what gets lost in prosperity, and what causes some of the current spiritual misery. You simply don't need other people anymore if you have enough money, which in turn destroys community. Maybe the land of plenty is a dystopia, and we're not meant to live like this for extended periods of time.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Yes, this is very true. The same in Poland. Now it's dog-eat-dog. The difference is night and day and obviously there are many gains but also there are some remarkable losses and this is one of them.
- CadmiumYellow 4y ago
  This is such an interesting point. When people have something to lose they turn inwards with the goal of protecting what they have. There's something to be said about how people can connect when nobody has resources to guard. Maybe this is part of why kids and college students can form such easy camaraderie compared to adults.
  - MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
    It all starts to make more sense once you see friendships as temporary alliances.