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Maybe exterior vents should be required? Does cooking on electric not impact indoor air quality?

falcolas 4y ago
Compared to burning gas, no. Burning natural gas produces a lot of byproducts of that combustion - many of which are not healthy for humans in concentrations produced by gas burners - which is why it's a problem.
Someone1234 4y ago
It does. The difference is what they're both contaminating air with. You can improve air quality from cooking food using common PM2.5 filtering (e.g. "fake vent hoods", air purifier, furnace filter, etc). Natural gas, when burned, releases gas/VOC byproducts that PM2.5 filters cannot remove and while Activated Carbon can remove some of it, it doesn't scale well enough to be a solution (just in terms of cost alone, but also in terms of Activated Carbon's lifecycle). I'm all for outdoor vents to be clear, even for electric/induction. I'm just pointing out that natural gas cooking has all the same downsides as any other food cooking does but with a whole host of additional ones that are far harder to mitigate.
- 2devnull 4y ago
  Can you quantify this? And, how does it compare to say water heaters and other sources of indoor gas use? My understanding is that it’s a negligible concern. So I’d love actual numbers if you have them or know where I can find them.
  - Someone1234 4y ago
    > And, how does it compare to say water heaters and other sources of indoor gas use? They're required to vent outside. > My understanding is that it’s a negligible concern. You're responding to an article saying that it isn't a negligible concern.
    - 2devnull 4y ago
      So no?
      - Someone1234 4y ago
        It doesn't feel like you're trying to have a good faith discussion. There's no point in my restating what the linked article says nor multiple of the other sources provided all throughout this thread.
        2devnull 4y ago
        I’m truly interested in data about the relative quantity of no2 produced by stovetop vs other sources. If that information is contained in the featured article I missed it. My understanding, from something I’d read previously, was that no2 was not a big concern, and that amongst sources of no2, gas ranges were less of an issue than heaters and water heaters. What I know is that no2 is higher outdoors. I just wonder if the danger isn’t being overstated, relative to other dangers. For the record I favor a law requiring venting in rental units and new home construction. I wish that was what got passed because it seems like the health impacts of nonventilated cooktops of any sort, including electric, is a larger concern.

Compared to burning gas, no. Burning natural gas produces a lot of byproducts of that combustion - many of which are not healthy for humans in concentrations produced by gas burners - which is why it's a problem.

Someone1234 4y ago

It does. The difference is what they're both contaminating air with. You can improve air quality from cooking food using common PM2.5 filtering (e.g. "fake vent hoods", air purifier, furnace filter, etc). Natural gas, when burned, releases gas/VOC byproducts that PM2.5 filters cannot remove and while Activated Carbon can remove some of it, it doesn't scale well enough to be a solution (just in terms of cost alone, but also in terms of Activated Carbon's lifecycle). I'm all for outdoor vents to be clear, even for electric/induction. I'm just pointing out that natural gas cooking has all the same downsides as any other food cooking does but with a whole host of additional ones that are far harder to mitigate.

2devnull 4y ago
Can you quantify this? And, how does it compare to say water heaters and other sources of indoor gas use? My understanding is that it’s a negligible concern. So I’d love actual numbers if you have them or know where I can find them.
- Someone1234 4y ago
  > And, how does it compare to say water heaters and other sources of indoor gas use? They're required to vent outside. > My understanding is that it’s a negligible concern. You're responding to an article saying that it isn't a negligible concern.
  - 2devnull 4y ago
    So no?
    - Someone1234 4y ago
      It doesn't feel like you're trying to have a good faith discussion. There's no point in my restating what the linked article says nor multiple of the other sources provided all throughout this thread.
      - 2devnull 4y ago
        I’m truly interested in data about the relative quantity of no2 produced by stovetop vs other sources. If that information is contained in the featured article I missed it. My understanding, from something I’d read previously, was that no2 was not a big concern, and that amongst sources of no2, gas ranges were less of an issue than heaters and water heaters. What I know is that no2 is higher outdoors. I just wonder if the danger isn’t being overstated, relative to other dangers. For the record I favor a law requiring venting in rental units and new home construction. I wish that was what got passed because it seems like the health impacts of nonventilated cooktops of any sort, including electric, is a larger concern.