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Sometimes I’m amazed that gas stoves aren’t regulated for fire safety much more heavily: Gas stoves quickly ignite any kindling near the flame. Electric (radia
by amluto 4y ago
Sometimes I’m amazed that gas stoves aren’t regulated for fire safety much more heavily:
Gas stoves quickly ignite any kindling near the flame. Electric (radiant) stoves can ignore things but it’s slower and there’s more shouldering first. It’s hard to start a fire with induction, especially temperature controlled induction, although the latter is not widely deployed.
A child or careless adult can easily turn a stove on by accident. A gas stove left on is an extreme hazard. An electric stove left on is a mild hazard. An induction stove left on is only a hazard at all if there’s cookware on it, and it’s the safest of the three.
A gas stove that’s on but not burning will release explosive gas. I’ve never seen one with a credible safety feature to prevent an explosion.
Not to mention:
Gas stoves are incredibly inefficient. Electric is pretty inefficient too. Induction is highly effective.
And gas stoves apparently pollute quite badly. Sure, a good vent will mitigate it, but then you need makeup air to avoid other issues, and you still lose conditioned air.
- sschueller 4y agoInduction is very cool but what sucks is touch flat buttons on the top surface of most induction stove top that either trigger when you spill something or don't trigger when your fingers are wet. Why can't we just keep the knobs that worked for decades and combine that with the new tech? This is what prevents the "average person" from going with something new when they are in the market for a replacement.
- sbradford26 4y agoThere are induction cooktops that have knobs. I believe one of the Frigidaire professional models has knobs on it. I think the main reason why induction cooktops typically don't have buttons is because it allows the surface to be used like more countertop. Frigidaire Professional Cooktop: https://www.frigidaire.com/Kitchen-Appliances/Cooktops/Induction-Cooktops/FPIC3677RF/ https://www.frigidaire.com/Kitchen-Appliances/Cooktops/Induc...
- tpxl 4y ago> don't have buttons is because it allows the surface to be used like more countertop My induction stovetop gets really angry at me if I place anything remotely near the buttons, be it wood, metal or cloth.
- jimhefferon 4y agoWe just bought a replacement for a gas stove, out of concern for fumes and some other reasons. When I asked about controls that are not touch buttons I was told that is hard to find. The other point is that induction models were much more expensive (for our choices, 4k vs 1k).
- amluto 4y agoThis is an unconventional but excellent option: https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/commercial/cmc850.html https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/commercial/cmc850.ht...
- jimhefferon 4y agoThanks for the link. I'll note that this single burner costs half again what our four burners plus oven costs, though. I guess I'm just not that interested. But thank you.
- duskwuff 4y agoThis is a fairly fancy induction cooktop for chefs. You can get a simple one for ~$50 -- it won't have the same level of temperature control as this one, but it's also a lot more affordable.
- denimnerd42 4y agois 1800 watts enough? I see products like this down to even $50 but running off of 120V i'm not really that interested. 1800 watts is not very much unless you're just cooking for yourself or one other.
- Gigachad 4y agoOn a single “burner”? Yes, it’s more than enough. More only assists in boiling water faster.
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- Gigachad 4y agoI wish my gas stove had touch controls. It’s so much easier to clean.
- porknubbins 4y agoYes, I would consider induction if the UI weren’t absolute garbage. Instead of knobs like every other stove in history they want to add “features” like preset heat level buttons then micro adjustment in a totally different place.
- jackvalentine 4y agoI have these, they control really well with knobs: https://www.gaggenau.com.au/products-list/cooktops/200-series/vario-200-series/induction/VI262120#/Tabs=section-highlights/Togglebox=manuals/Togglebox=accessories/ https://www.gaggenau.com.au/products-list/cooktops/200-serie...
- peteradio 4y agoYou'd want a vent cooking on any of those ranges.
- amluto 4y agoYes, but you don’t have to use it for low temperature cooking.
- endisneigh 4y agoEven if you were using electric you need proper ventilation. It's amazing how many people think an electric stove somehow makes a kitchen hood unnecessary.
- LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago> especially temperature controlled induction, although the latter is not widely deployed. What are you talking about? Even the most basic units are temperature controlled. How else could they work if you operate them in modes where you tap in the desired temperature, and it shows in the display? I've never seen any which didn't have that as an option. Since a decade, or so.
- amluto 4y agoWe’re talking about ranges, right? I’ve seen the hot pot kind that let you set a temperature in ~20 degree increments are are not particularly accurate. I’ve seen the Control Freak, which is quite accurate and precise if the pan is appropriate (mostly flat enough in the bottom). There are a few household ranges that talk to Bluetooth sensors. There’s the Njori Tempo, which doesn’t exist yet. Beyond that there are bunch of regular induction ranges, on which you set a power level on an arbitrary scale from 1 to 10 or maybe 1 to “boost”.
- LargoLasskhyfv 4y agoMaybe it's a regional market thing. I speak from a german POV. But I've seen these things appear in the nearer 'neighborhood', since at least a decade. Also mentions in mass media. Even the stuff you call 'range' has these options, in addition to turning knobs with fixed settings. I started with a single 'hot-pot' and that was/is accurate. Still keeping that as a spare. I mean, just look at the stuff Ikea is offering, AFAICT they all have it. If accurate I can't tell, but I've heard no complaints from people I know, who do have them. So... shrug?
- rlpb 4y ago> A gas stove that’s on but not burning will release explosive gas. I’ve never seen one with a credible safety feature to prevent an explosion. I've never seen a gas stove that can be on but not burning. The gas doesn't flow unless the burner is either hot or being overridden by the spark generator. If the flame goes out, so will the gas.
- sparker72678 4y agoMany to most consumer ranges will allow flow of gas without flame. Just turn the knob quickly past the “light/spark” position.
- rlpb 4y agoThat's not my experience. Perhaps this depends on the level of regulation in a given country.
- kylehotchkiss 4y agoI spent a few years living in southeast Asia and the stove in my apartment would happily let gas out without a flame! In fact, it didn’t even have a built in igniter, there was an external pen sized spark generator, or a match. We came back home to a heavy gas smell one day in the entire apartment and it was horrifying. The stove is so quiet you can just barely hear it. Thankfully it was humid then and nothing sparked.