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Count me in in saying that there is something about these older movies that eclipses almost all "entertainment" these days. It is mostly the storytelling rangi

Count me in in saying that there is something about these older movies that eclipses almost all "entertainment" these days. It is mostly the storytelling ranging from "the message" to the dialogue. None of it resonates with me.

iamacyborg 4y ago
How do you feel about more modern movies like Sicario? That one has both a very strong message, fantastic dialogue and beautiful camera work, IMO.
- jonhohle 4y ago
  That’s true of many Denis Villeneuve movies, though. There are always going to be directors that produce quality, regardless of current trends, however, these are the exception (and unfortunately, not always reliably consistent).
  - iamacyborg 4y ago
    Sure, but the movies they’re being compared to were also the exceptions of their day. We remember them precisely because they were good, but tons of dross was also being released at the same time. The market economics were also vastly different at the time, streaming really has changed the industry, and the quality of tv shows has improved dramatically.
    - jonhohle 4y ago
      My point was you chose a movie from a director known for stunning movies. That has nothing to do with the time period the movie was made. Stanley Kubrick, Terry Gilliam, Darren Aranofsky, and many others consistently make movies that would be considered beautiful regardless of when they were released.
- ddalex 4y ago
  Loved Sicario, and the parallela are there : the story, the gradual reveal, the tension, the character building.
bornfreddy 4y ago
For me Pixar movies are great in this respect. Storytelling is there front and center. There is a book (Creativity Inc iirc?) that talks about Pixar history and their process, pretty incredible how many hits they were able to produce during their era and how consistent they were. Not sure if they produced anything lately though?
- ryanianian 4y ago
  > Not sure if they produced anything lately though? Recently-ish: Coco, Soul, and Inside Out are among my favorite Pixar movies and all compete with the golden-era Pixar classics in terms of being memorable and story-first. The Disney acquisition seems to have crushed some Pixar magic. You can no longer assume every Pixar movie to be gold, but they can still turn out top-quality content.

iamacyborg 4y ago

How do you feel about more modern movies like Sicario? That one has both a very strong message, fantastic dialogue and beautiful camera work, IMO.

jonhohle 4y ago
That’s true of many Denis Villeneuve movies, though. There are always going to be directors that produce quality, regardless of current trends, however, these are the exception (and unfortunately, not always reliably consistent).
- iamacyborg 4y ago
  Sure, but the movies they’re being compared to were also the exceptions of their day. We remember them precisely because they were good, but tons of dross was also being released at the same time. The market economics were also vastly different at the time, streaming really has changed the industry, and the quality of tv shows has improved dramatically.
  - jonhohle 4y ago
    My point was you chose a movie from a director known for stunning movies. That has nothing to do with the time period the movie was made. Stanley Kubrick, Terry Gilliam, Darren Aranofsky, and many others consistently make movies that would be considered beautiful regardless of when they were released.
ddalex 4y ago
Loved Sicario, and the parallela are there : the story, the gradual reveal, the tension, the character building.

bornfreddy 4y ago

For me Pixar movies are great in this respect. Storytelling is there front and center. There is a book (Creativity Inc iirc?) that talks about Pixar history and their process, pretty incredible how many hits they were able to produce during their era and how consistent they were. Not sure if they produced anything lately though?

ryanianian 4y ago
> Not sure if they produced anything lately though? Recently-ish: Coco, Soul, and Inside Out are among my favorite Pixar movies and all compete with the golden-era Pixar classics in terms of being memorable and story-first. The Disney acquisition seems to have crushed some Pixar magic. You can no longer assume every Pixar movie to be gold, but they can still turn out top-quality content.