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And if you come living here with a foreign wage, sure makes sense to me. But if you have a "native wage", it's a no go.

capableweb 4y ago
Even with a salary from a Portuguese company, the cost of living is relatively low (compared to other South/Western European countries, and not including Lisbon obviously as it's a outlier [like all metropolitan areas]) so makes sense even with a "native wage". Especially if you work in the IT industry.
- traveler01 4y ago
  The cost of living is not low at all. Don't know where you got that idea from.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    Of course it depends on what you compare it to. But compared to its South-Western European sisters, it is quite low. Mainly getting it from living in a bunch of European countries (including Portugal, and others outside of Europe, but not as relevant). Besides Lisbon (and probably Porto nowadays), it's hard to find a place with good weather, good food and low cost of living compared to Portugal. Or maybe you have some counter-examples you care to show me? In order to add some facts to the discussion, here are two links showing some comparison between cost of living in different countries in Europe: - https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/cost_of_living_wb/European-union/ https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/cost_of_living_wb/... - https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2022&region=150 https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.js...
    - traveler01 4y ago
      Probably other portuguese are going to hate me for saying this but... you have Spain. Their cost of living is a bit higher but their wages are higher as well and in some key stuff they have cheaper stuff than us. I went to Barcelona last year and I actually purchased there stuff to bring to Portugal because it was cheaper. Also, I get why people get the idea that Portugal is "cheaper". Most come here in a trip, eat at a restaurant and pay a lot less than they're used to and they think the country is cheap. Well, that only happens because the wages are very low (our minimum wage for 2023 is 740€ and even though it raised a bit, the remaining wages aren't raising accordingly).
    - djbebs 4y ago
      From personal experience cost of living in portugal is in line with germany.
      - capableweb 4y ago
        I'm not sure Germany is famous for its good weather nor good food, but I've only visited a couple of times, never lived there, maybe I missed out on something obvious?

Even with a salary from a Portuguese company, the cost of living is relatively low (compared to other South/Western European countries, and not including Lisbon obviously as it's a outlier [like all metropolitan areas]) so makes sense even with a "native wage". Especially if you work in the IT industry.

traveler01 4y ago
The cost of living is not low at all. Don't know where you got that idea from.
- capableweb 4y ago
  Of course it depends on what you compare it to. But compared to its South-Western European sisters, it is quite low. Mainly getting it from living in a bunch of European countries (including Portugal, and others outside of Europe, but not as relevant). Besides Lisbon (and probably Porto nowadays), it's hard to find a place with good weather, good food and low cost of living compared to Portugal. Or maybe you have some counter-examples you care to show me? In order to add some facts to the discussion, here are two links showing some comparison between cost of living in different countries in Europe: - https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/cost_of_living_wb/European-union/ https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/cost_of_living_wb/... - https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2022&region=150 https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.js...
  - traveler01 4y ago
    Probably other portuguese are going to hate me for saying this but... you have Spain. Their cost of living is a bit higher but their wages are higher as well and in some key stuff they have cheaper stuff than us. I went to Barcelona last year and I actually purchased there stuff to bring to Portugal because it was cheaper. Also, I get why people get the idea that Portugal is "cheaper". Most come here in a trip, eat at a restaurant and pay a lot less than they're used to and they think the country is cheap. Well, that only happens because the wages are very low (our minimum wage for 2023 is 740€ and even though it raised a bit, the remaining wages aren't raising accordingly).
  - djbebs 4y ago
    From personal experience cost of living in portugal is in line with germany.
    - capableweb 4y ago
      I'm not sure Germany is famous for its good weather nor good food, but I've only visited a couple of times, never lived there, maybe I missed out on something obvious?