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It’s already the case that you have to do this for certain groups of products in France under the AGEC laws. Take for example this dishwasher: https://www.ikea.

It’s already the case that you have to do this for certain groups of products in France under the AGEC laws. Take for example this dishwasher: https://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/p/diskad-lave-vaisselle-encastrable-ikea-700-40475416/ https://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/p/diskad-lave-vaisselle-encastrab... . It has an “indice de répairabilité” of 7.4, generated from a bunch of different factors such as ease of disassembly, availability of spare parts and documentation, and the ability to factory-reset it. The data sheet listing those factors for this model is here: https://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/files/pdf/4f/fd/4ffd4fd2/indice-de-reparabilite-lave-vaisselle-diskad.pdf https://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/files/pdf/4f/fd/4ffd4fd2/indice-d...

rand846633 4y ago
Do you have any personal experience or opinion if this law/metric is helpful for consumers in praxis?
- robin_reala 4y ago
  No: it’s fairly recent (and in fact only a part of the wider set of AGEC requirements that include labelling for recyclability, recycled status, consumption of rare earths and precious metals, origin of textiles, etc.) And then there’s the EU-wide Digital Product Passport[1] coming in the next few years that’ll up the game again. We’ll see over the coming years what customer perception is like. [1] A report on this at https://www.corporateleadersgroup.com/files/cisl_digital_products_passport_report_v6.pdf https://www.corporateleadersgroup.com/files/cisl_digital_pro...
kwhitefoot 4y ago
I don't know what, if any, regulations are involved but here in Norway several of the big electrical retailers have started publishing the expected lifetime of products together with statement of how long spares will be available. For example the Ankarsrum food mixer (successor to the classic Electrolux Assistent) entry at Elkjop.no states that the expected lifetime is 30 years and that spares will be available for 12 years. https://www.elkjop.no/product/hjem-rengjoring-og-kjokkenutstyr/kjokkenapparater/kjokkenmaskiner-og-matlaging/kjokkenmaskin/ankarsrum-sunbeam-yellow-kjokkenmaskin-akm6230sb/374115#sustainability https://www.elkjop.no/product/hjem-rengjoring-og-kjokkenutst... The French idea looks good. IKEA don't provide that information here :-(
ddulaney 4y ago
I like that a lot. Judging from the criteria (in my extremely limited French) it’s a measure of effort rather than outcome, but honestly effort is all we can really ask for.

rand846633 4y ago

Do you have any personal experience or opinion if this law/metric is helpful for consumers in praxis?

robin_reala 4y ago
No: it’s fairly recent (and in fact only a part of the wider set of AGEC requirements that include labelling for recyclability, recycled status, consumption of rare earths and precious metals, origin of textiles, etc.) And then there’s the EU-wide Digital Product Passport[1] coming in the next few years that’ll up the game again. We’ll see over the coming years what customer perception is like. [1] A report on this at https://www.corporateleadersgroup.com/files/cisl_digital_products_passport_report_v6.pdf https://www.corporateleadersgroup.com/files/cisl_digital_pro...

kwhitefoot 4y ago

I don't know what, if any, regulations are involved but here in Norway several of the big electrical retailers have started publishing the expected lifetime of products together with statement of how long spares will be available. For example the Ankarsrum food mixer (successor to the classic Electrolux Assistent) entry at Elkjop.no states that the expected lifetime is 30 years and that spares will be available for 12 years. https://www.elkjop.no/product/hjem-rengjoring-og-kjokkenutstyr/kjokkenapparater/kjokkenmaskiner-og-matlaging/kjokkenmaskin/ankarsrum-sunbeam-yellow-kjokkenmaskin-akm6230sb/374115#sustainability https://www.elkjop.no/product/hjem-rengjoring-og-kjokkenutst... The French idea looks good. IKEA don't provide that information here :-(

ddulaney 4y ago

I like that a lot. Judging from the criteria (in my extremely limited French) it’s a measure of effort rather than outcome, but honestly effort is all we can really ask for.