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There's a sad irony that WebKit isn't really available to the KDE/Qt ecosystem anymore. The engine that came from KDE is no longer available for use in the KDE

There's a sad irony that WebKit isn't really available to the KDE/Qt ecosystem anymore. The engine that came from KDE is no longer available for use in the KDE platform.

tiffanyh 4y ago
Can you explain why
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  Looking into it, I came across this: https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2022/11/04/stop-using-qtwebkit/ https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2022/11/04/stop-using-qtw... It looks like the Qt side of things doesn't get updated anymore. If you want to use webkit, there are still options, though. However, in my experience the open source webkit engine and Safari are very different. I don't know why you'd use webkit for anything if Blink and Gecko are available.
  - kitsunesoba 4y ago
    Open source WebKit on macOS is practically identical to Safari in behavior. Orion[0] for example ships its own build of WebKit, and it's as close to Safari as e.g. Edge is to Chrome. [0]: https://browser.kagi.com https://browser.kagi.com
  - epolanski 4y ago
    > However, in my experience the open source webkit engine and Safari are very different. This has not been my experience using Playwright which compiles webkit at every single new merge.
    - jeroenhd 4y ago
      My test for this was very simple: open https://html5test.com/ https://html5test.com/ and compare to the latest stable Safari release. The Webkit clients I could get working on my machine all lacked features Safari reportedly support, leading to a lower score than Safari. I don't know what's missing exactly, but there's clearly a distinction between the two, even if the core functionality is the same.
  - madeofpalk 4y ago
    Webkit runs on Symbian mobile phones, Playstations, and most televisions. It's a highly portable/ported browser engine that runs in a bunch of 'non-PC' environments. If it has an embedded browser/engine, there's a very high chance it's Webkit.
shp0ngle 4y ago
Huh? I see three different Linux downloads here https://webkit.org/downloads/ https://webkit.org/downloads/ edit: ahhh, it's not KDE/Qt. Epiphany is GNOME. Okay

There's a sad irony that WebKit isn't really available to the KDE/Qt ecosystem anymore. The engine that came from KDE is no longer available for use in the KDE platform.

tiffanyh 4y ago

Can you explain why

jeroenhd 4y ago
Looking into it, I came across this: https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2022/11/04/stop-using-qtwebkit/ https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2022/11/04/stop-using-qtw... It looks like the Qt side of things doesn't get updated anymore. If you want to use webkit, there are still options, though. However, in my experience the open source webkit engine and Safari are very different. I don't know why you'd use webkit for anything if Blink and Gecko are available.
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  Open source WebKit on macOS is practically identical to Safari in behavior. Orion[0] for example ships its own build of WebKit, and it's as close to Safari as e.g. Edge is to Chrome. [0]: https://browser.kagi.com https://browser.kagi.com
- epolanski 4y ago
  > However, in my experience the open source webkit engine and Safari are very different. This has not been my experience using Playwright which compiles webkit at every single new merge.
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    My test for this was very simple: open https://html5test.com/ https://html5test.com/ and compare to the latest stable Safari release. The Webkit clients I could get working on my machine all lacked features Safari reportedly support, leading to a lower score than Safari. I don't know what's missing exactly, but there's clearly a distinction between the two, even if the core functionality is the same.
- madeofpalk 4y ago
  Webkit runs on Symbian mobile phones, Playstations, and most televisions. It's a highly portable/ported browser engine that runs in a bunch of 'non-PC' environments. If it has an embedded browser/engine, there's a very high chance it's Webkit.

shp0ngle 4y ago

Huh? I see three different Linux downloads here https://webkit.org/downloads/ https://webkit.org/downloads/ edit: ahhh, it's not KDE/Qt. Epiphany is GNOME. Okay