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I’ll believe it when I see it. So far every right to repair compliance on their side has been met with bad faith circumventions. Like making tools available in

I’ll believe it when I see it. So far every right to repair compliance on their side has been met with bad faith circumventions. Like making tools available in theory but not actually.

hedgehog 4y ago
My bet is this is coordinated with a lobbying effort to prevent more right to repair legislation.
donmcronald 4y ago
Yeah. My wishlist: - Repair manuals. - Reasonably priced replacement parts. - Give the owner a key to sign / certify any parts they want. - Give the owner the ability to disable OTA updates. - Give the government a key to sign / certify parts. - Give the government the ability to review and delay OTA updates. I don't want some mega corp in a foreign nation holding the means of food production hostage via parts serialization and DRM.
- midoridensha 4y ago
  >I don't want some mega corp in a foreign nation holding the means of food production hostage via parts serialization and DRM. Governments should be acting more in their own nations' self-interest, and simply forbidding any such things from foreign vendors.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    Or governments should act more in their citizens interest, and simply forbid any such things local or foreign.
- Foobar8568 4y ago
  Fuck lenovo Europe for parts, nothing available for an X1 C6, so around 3-4y old. Had to buy on a customer website hoping for a genuine part. What was Lenovo answer to buy a replacement battery ? Send in your laptop to diagnostic a dead battery.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    For a couple of years now I see laptops as consumables rather than as full members of the family of general purpose computers. If they break they are impossible to repair without special tools or sending them in so I just demolish them, pull out the storage device and shred it. The rest can then be safely turned in as electronics waste at the local depot. It's pretty sad because replaceable batteries have been a thing in just about everything since I was a kid and the idea that laptops are somehow so special that we can't do it because they are thin is ridiculous to me. But apparently that's what the market wants.
- mschuster91 4y ago
  > Give the government a key to sign / certify parts. Bad idea. Very bad idea. We've already seen malware campaigns where governments actually stole signing credentials such as Stuxnet, where the creators managed to get their malware signed by Realtek and JMicron certificates [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17101171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17101171
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I’ll believe it when I see it. So far every right to repair compliance on their side has been met with bad faith circumventions. Like making tools available in theory but not actually.

hedgehog 4y ago

My bet is this is coordinated with a lobbying effort to prevent more right to repair legislation.

donmcronald 4y ago

Yeah. My wishlist: - Repair manuals. - Reasonably priced replacement parts. - Give the owner a key to sign / certify any parts they want. - Give the owner the ability to disable OTA updates. - Give the government a key to sign / certify parts. - Give the government the ability to review and delay OTA updates. I don't want some mega corp in a foreign nation holding the means of food production hostage via parts serialization and DRM.

midoridensha 4y ago
>I don't want some mega corp in a foreign nation holding the means of food production hostage via parts serialization and DRM. Governments should be acting more in their own nations' self-interest, and simply forbidding any such things from foreign vendors.
- HWR_14 4y ago
  Or governments should act more in their citizens interest, and simply forbid any such things local or foreign.
Foobar8568 4y ago
Fuck lenovo Europe for parts, nothing available for an X1 C6, so around 3-4y old. Had to buy on a customer website hoping for a genuine part. What was Lenovo answer to buy a replacement battery ? Send in your laptop to diagnostic a dead battery.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  For a couple of years now I see laptops as consumables rather than as full members of the family of general purpose computers. If they break they are impossible to repair without special tools or sending them in so I just demolish them, pull out the storage device and shred it. The rest can then be safely turned in as electronics waste at the local depot. It's pretty sad because replaceable batteries have been a thing in just about everything since I was a kid and the idea that laptops are somehow so special that we can't do it because they are thin is ridiculous to me. But apparently that's what the market wants.
mschuster91 4y ago
> Give the government a key to sign / certify parts. Bad idea. Very bad idea. We've already seen malware campaigns where governments actually stole signing credentials such as Stuxnet, where the creators managed to get their malware signed by Realtek and JMicron certificates [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17101171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17101171

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