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I have misfortune of having a last name that while not frequently used in English, has an unfortunate meaning ("cowardly"). Seeing this in the title, does "By C

I have misfortune of having a last name that while not frequently used in English, has an unfortunate meaning ("cowardly"). Seeing this in the title, does "By Craven" refer to someone with that name, or to someone considered cowardly by those doing the exercise? https://www.dictionary.com/browse/craven https://www.dictionary.com/browse/craven

repsilat 4y ago
It was edited by someone called Craven, possibly a nom de plume. Still looking for more info. Some evidence in a Gutenberg copy: 'Edited by "Craven"' (name in quotes in the original) and that name below the editor's preface. https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/69080/pg69080-images.html https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/69080/pg69080-images.ht... EDIT: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:John_William_Carleton https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:John_William_Carleto... > John William Carleton > English writer, editor and army officer, published under the pseudonym "Craven"
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djmips 4y ago
It does contain the word Raven which is pretty cool. C. Raven.
doktrin 4y ago
For what it’s worth, I think yours is a dope name.
googlryas 4y ago
I think most people who hear the name, if they think anything, would just think of "wes craven"
- mathieuh 4y ago
  In the UK it would be John Craven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Craven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Craven
hoseja 4y ago
You must really hate GRRM.
- bdcravens 4y ago
  Not really, as even though it's a fictional world, it harkens to a time when the word was common. Outside of fiction, I had never heard the word used until recent years, when it's become en vogue to use the term in political "discourse", a use I do despise.
  - hoseja 4y ago
    Why do you think it came into the collective vocabulary recently? ASoIaF basically reintroduced it.
scrappyjoe 4y ago
Ironically, in South Africa ‘Craven Week’ is an annual week long elite school rugby tournament - and it’s the place where talent scouts go to find tomorrow’s rugby stars for club and national rugby teams. It takes a lot of talent and guts to be selected for Craven Week. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craven_Week https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craven_Week

repsilat 4y ago

It was edited by someone called Craven, possibly a nom de plume. Still looking for more info. Some evidence in a Gutenberg copy: 'Edited by "Craven"' (name in quotes in the original) and that name below the editor's preface. https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/69080/pg69080-images.html https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/69080/pg69080-images.ht... EDIT: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:John_William_Carleton https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:John_William_Carleto... > John William Carleton > English writer, editor and army officer, published under the pseudonym "Craven"

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djmips 4y ago

It does contain the word Raven which is pretty cool. C. Raven.

doktrin 4y ago

For what it’s worth, I think yours is a dope name.

googlryas 4y ago

I think most people who hear the name, if they think anything, would just think of "wes craven"

mathieuh 4y ago
In the UK it would be John Craven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Craven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Craven

hoseja 4y ago

You must really hate GRRM.

bdcravens 4y ago
Not really, as even though it's a fictional world, it harkens to a time when the word was common. Outside of fiction, I had never heard the word used until recent years, when it's become en vogue to use the term in political "discourse", a use I do despise.
- hoseja 4y ago
  Why do you think it came into the collective vocabulary recently? ASoIaF basically reintroduced it.

scrappyjoe 4y ago

Ironically, in South Africa ‘Craven Week’ is an annual week long elite school rugby tournament - and it’s the place where talent scouts go to find tomorrow’s rugby stars for club and national rugby teams. It takes a lot of talent and guts to be selected for Craven Week. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craven_Week https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craven_Week