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its not, but it has its advantages, there is a lot of thing a ungulate can consume that does not make good food for humans, and much of the terrain they can gra

its not, but it has its advantages, there is a lot of thing a ungulate can consume that does not make good food for humans, and much of the terrain they can graze on does not make good farm land for other food production. cows and goat for example will happily eat all sort of vegetation that doesn't need humans to water fertilize or plant.

myshpa 4y ago
> but it has its advantages And tons of disadvantages. > and much of the terrain they can graze on does not make good farm land for other food production So ... maybe let's rewild the land with forests and shrubs? > will happily eat all sort of vegetation that doesn't need humans to water fertilize or plant You'd have us thinking that eating meat helps save water. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use https://ourworldindata.org/land-use We globally dedicate 75% of agri land to the animal agriculture, btw it's larger area than all forests together. https://waterfootprint.org/en/water-footprint/product-water-footprint/water-footprint-crop-and-animal-products/ https://waterfootprint.org/en/water-footprint/product-water-... "Per ton of product, animal products generally have a larger water footprint than crop products. The same is true when we look at the water footprint per calorie. The average water footprint per calorie for beef is twenty times larger than for cereals and starchy roots. When we look at the water requirements for protein, it has been found that the water footprint per gram of protein for milk, eggs and chicken meat is about 1.5 times larger than for pulses. For beef, the water footprint per gram of protein is 6 times larger than for pulses." https://www.cowspiracy.com/facts https://www.cowspiracy.com/facts "Agriculture is responsible for 80-90% of US water consumption. 5% of water consumed in the US is by private homes. 55% of water consumed in the US is for animal agriculture. Animal Agriculture is responsible for 20%-33% of all fresh water consumption in the world today."
- smegger001 4y ago
  >> but it has its advantages >And tons of disadvantages. I never said their weren't; everything has it tradeoffs. >> and much of the terrain they can graze on does not make good farm land for other food production >So ... maybe let's rewild the land with forests and shrubs? much of that is scrub land and plains there naturally there are large heard of wild large herbavores that doesn't mesh well with current subdivision of lands into plots separated by fences and barbwire. better to alow grazzing by domestic herd animals that are close matches to their wild cousins ecologically but deal better with modern existence than have yet another a empty gap in the natural ecology. >> will happily eat all sort of vegetation that doesn't need humans to water fertilize or plant >You'd have us thinking that eating meat helps save water. I said no such thing, waht i meant is that free range cattle don't require as much water use as grain fed beacuse you aren't watering feilds to grow food to feed them. as they are living off of the planst that grow their naturally. I agree that we use to much meat, and that is a bad use of calories and land to grow corn to feed cow to get less calories back. My point is their is plenty of land that is naturally good grazing for herd of cattle but otherwise unusable for farming that can be still be used to produce useful food.

myshpa 4y ago

> but it has its advantages And tons of disadvantages. > and much of the terrain they can graze on does not make good farm land for other food production So ... maybe let's rewild the land with forests and shrubs? > will happily eat all sort of vegetation that doesn't need humans to water fertilize or plant You'd have us thinking that eating meat helps save water. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use https://ourworldindata.org/land-use We globally dedicate 75% of agri land to the animal agriculture, btw it's larger area than all forests together. https://waterfootprint.org/en/water-footprint/product-water-footprint/water-footprint-crop-and-animal-products/ https://waterfootprint.org/en/water-footprint/product-water-... "Per ton of product, animal products generally have a larger water footprint than crop products. The same is true when we look at the water footprint per calorie. The average water footprint per calorie for beef is twenty times larger than for cereals and starchy roots. When we look at the water requirements for protein, it has been found that the water footprint per gram of protein for milk, eggs and chicken meat is about 1.5 times larger than for pulses. For beef, the water footprint per gram of protein is 6 times larger than for pulses." https://www.cowspiracy.com/facts https://www.cowspiracy.com/facts "Agriculture is responsible for 80-90% of US water consumption. 5% of water consumed in the US is by private homes. 55% of water consumed in the US is for animal agriculture. Animal Agriculture is responsible for 20%-33% of all fresh water consumption in the world today."

smegger001 4y ago
>> but it has its advantages >And tons of disadvantages. I never said their weren't; everything has it tradeoffs. >> and much of the terrain they can graze on does not make good farm land for other food production >So ... maybe let's rewild the land with forests and shrubs? much of that is scrub land and plains there naturally there are large heard of wild large herbavores that doesn't mesh well with current subdivision of lands into plots separated by fences and barbwire. better to alow grazzing by domestic herd animals that are close matches to their wild cousins ecologically but deal better with modern existence than have yet another a empty gap in the natural ecology. >> will happily eat all sort of vegetation that doesn't need humans to water fertilize or plant >You'd have us thinking that eating meat helps save water. I said no such thing, waht i meant is that free range cattle don't require as much water use as grain fed beacuse you aren't watering feilds to grow food to feed them. as they are living off of the planst that grow their naturally. I agree that we use to much meat, and that is a bad use of calories and land to grow corn to feed cow to get less calories back. My point is their is plenty of land that is naturally good grazing for herd of cattle but otherwise unusable for farming that can be still be used to produce useful food.