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EVGA stopped making GPUs entirely, citing among other things the inability to sustain MSRP pricing. Really odd you'd use them as an example unless you were just

EVGA stopped making GPUs entirely, citing among other things the inability to sustain MSRP pricing. Really odd you'd use them as an example unless you were just entirely unaware of that recent breakup? So... No, other companies can't do what EVGA did just like EVGA couldn't keep doing what EVGA did. Hence why they basically went bankrupt doing it (rather, they obviously didn't drop 70+% of their revenue if it was a healthy profit margin as you are so insistent on claiming)

paulmd 4y ago
Zotac also had MSRP 2080 Ti cards though? Did you read the other example I gave? Anyway, I'd still love to see your sources, but, if you can't provide any then I think we're done here. I gave you real numbers and you've ignored them several times in favor of supposition and imagination. EVGA quit because they knew the mining crash was going to lead to a couple of very slow years, just like after the 2018 mining crash. I've already stated my problems with their argument: they made tons of money during the mining boom, and the claims that they were losing money were limited to the deep clearance pricing they had to do after the mining crash. You have acknowledged most of these individual points but just don't seem to accept the synthesis of the whole: the EVGA guy wasn't really presenting a fair and honest big picture, that's why GN told you to "take him with a big grain of salt" and Igor's Lab's partners said they didn't understand where he was coming from. This may be difficult, but sometimes individuals will go to media and present a slanted narrative, especially when they have a financial interest in doing so or are generally upset. What the EVGA guy said wasn't really true, or was very narrowly true. And to be fair, there is a lot to be upset about, NVIDIA definitely is not gracious to the partners. But if they play it right, it's a guaranteed 10% margin on all their sales. 200k cards a week times $500 ASP times 10% margin is quite a bit of money, and that's EVGA alone.

paulmd 4y ago

Zotac also had MSRP 2080 Ti cards though? Did you read the other example I gave? Anyway, I'd still love to see your sources, but, if you can't provide any then I think we're done here. I gave you real numbers and you've ignored them several times in favor of supposition and imagination. EVGA quit because they knew the mining crash was going to lead to a couple of very slow years, just like after the 2018 mining crash. I've already stated my problems with their argument: they made tons of money during the mining boom, and the claims that they were losing money were limited to the deep clearance pricing they had to do after the mining crash. You have acknowledged most of these individual points but just don't seem to accept the synthesis of the whole: the EVGA guy wasn't really presenting a fair and honest big picture, that's why GN told you to "take him with a big grain of salt" and Igor's Lab's partners said they didn't understand where he was coming from. This may be difficult, but sometimes individuals will go to media and present a slanted narrative, especially when they have a financial interest in doing so or are generally upset. What the EVGA guy said wasn't really true, or was very narrowly true. And to be fair, there is a lot to be upset about, NVIDIA definitely is not gracious to the partners. But if they play it right, it's a guaranteed 10% margin on all their sales. 200k cards a week times $500 ASP times 10% margin is quite a bit of money, and that's EVGA alone.