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Dude, I could care less about the newer generations quirks. I'm concerned about aggregate behavior altering sensibilities in society. This stuff is happening at

Dude, I could care less about the newer generations quirks. I'm concerned about aggregate behavior altering sensibilities in society. This stuff is happening at scale and globally. It's not "oh western people do this", it's everyone and it's not even limited to the youth age group. It has permeated into the adult lives of millinials/gen x. They do the same shit, so the age range is literally from 7 years old (when do these little shitheads get phones now days?) all the way to fucking 50+.

standardUser 4y ago
What exactly are you so deeply concerned with? People being weird in public sometimes?
- jesuscript 4y ago
  Like I said man, it's a rabbit hole. The need for attention, coupled with virtualized existences on display for status/adulation at a constant rate, all lead to implications of vanity issues at best, and at worse, pathological personality disorders (narcissism). And they are starting young, and there is very limited feedback from their peer group that it's not the best thing to be going down that slope. But who am I to label a vast swath of the 2023 global population pathologically fucked going forward. How far would I get explaining to people in the 1950s that they might be immoral racists? I hope I'm wrong, but from what I'm seeing, things ain't slowing down.
  - standardUser 4y ago
    I can see where you're coming from. Try coming from the opposite perspective, from the viewpoint of the countless millions who have had to hide themselves away from the world because society was so needlessly rigid, and too much deviation from the norm got them beat up or fired or otherwise ostracized. And then we get the fallout from that ostracization: anti-social behavior, drug abuse, suicide. I'd rather live in a world where people can be complete fucking weirdos without any consequence, except when their weirdness directly harms other people.
    - jesuscript 4y ago
      I would never argue for curtailing self expression. A drug analogy might actually work here. I would say, it's fine, smoke the weed. But be careful little ones, because lately I've been seeing you smoking weed and alcohol together and the latter will take a hold of you. I hope that makes sense, and it's the best middle ground I can find in this exchange.

standardUser 4y ago

What exactly are you so deeply concerned with? People being weird in public sometimes?

jesuscript 4y ago
Like I said man, it's a rabbit hole. The need for attention, coupled with virtualized existences on display for status/adulation at a constant rate, all lead to implications of vanity issues at best, and at worse, pathological personality disorders (narcissism). And they are starting young, and there is very limited feedback from their peer group that it's not the best thing to be going down that slope. But who am I to label a vast swath of the 2023 global population pathologically fucked going forward. How far would I get explaining to people in the 1950s that they might be immoral racists? I hope I'm wrong, but from what I'm seeing, things ain't slowing down.
- standardUser 4y ago
  I can see where you're coming from. Try coming from the opposite perspective, from the viewpoint of the countless millions who have had to hide themselves away from the world because society was so needlessly rigid, and too much deviation from the norm got them beat up or fired or otherwise ostracized. And then we get the fallout from that ostracization: anti-social behavior, drug abuse, suicide. I'd rather live in a world where people can be complete fucking weirdos without any consequence, except when their weirdness directly harms other people.
  - jesuscript 4y ago
    I would never argue for curtailing self expression. A drug analogy might actually work here. I would say, it's fine, smoke the weed. But be careful little ones, because lately I've been seeing you smoking weed and alcohol together and the latter will take a hold of you. I hope that makes sense, and it's the best middle ground I can find in this exchange.