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I see people filming themselves at the gym a lot for tiktok videos I assume. Both men and women alike. I've seen them set up tripods or have camera assistants w

I see people filming themselves at the gym a lot for tiktok videos I assume. Both men and women alike. I've seen them set up tripods or have camera assistants who circle around them filming. It makes me extremely uncomfortable being in the background of a sexualized gym video. Let's not kid ourselves, that's what a lot of these videos are, give me a break. They aren't just filming their abs or biceps or squat video from behind just purely for fitness' sake and they are well aware that their followers are not just really into fitness. I wouldn't really care if they did it by themselves. For one thing I just don't want to be identified in the background of what is essentially softcore erotica and for another I don't want to be identifiable by Chinese AI or have some sort of weird profile set up that matches my features on their end (or anywhere). These are real actual harms in my opinion and not just gripes about the next generation.

temporallobe 4y ago
I see this as well, but in my gym it doesn’t seem to be sexual in any way, so I think it depends on the gym and the type of patrons that attend it. Or maybe I’m just naive and didn’t think of it in that way. I will admit it makes me a bit irritated because I never know if I’m accidentally gonna end up in someone’s shot.
- 2devnull 4y ago
  A dude doing deadlifts is cool. A woman it’s pretty much always sexual. That’s why they get so many viewers. It’s pervos on YouTube or TikTok wanting to see their spandex clad fannies doing squats. There’s no other reason for lululemon than flagrant sexual exhibitionism. It’s easier to work out with loose fitting clothes.
  - cyberlurker 4y ago
    Athleisure clothes are absolutely comfortable. It is insane to say that entire brand is only for sexual exhibitionism. Lol Their clothes are also extremely well made and have outlasted similar Puma, Nike, Adidas pairs.
    - 2devnull 4y ago
      Women I’ve known and talked to have told me that baggy sweats and flannel pajamas bottoms are “comfy.” Nobody comes home after a hard day and puts on lululemon to go to bed, or sit on the couch and watch movies. Baggy sweats are the opposite of lululemon; cheap, loose fitting, comfortable. Women want to look good. There’s nothing wrong with that. Men do too. It’s ok to admit it.
  - temporallobe 4y ago
    I’ve seen women who could deadlift impressive amounts of weight (more than I was able to when I first started), and it definitely wasn’t sexual. But they had professional trainers that were actually giving them correct advice on how to properly lift without hurting themselves. As I mentioned in my original comment, it really depends on the gym and the type of patrons it attracts. In my experience, an LA Fitness (or something like it) might attract that hookup/tiktok/softporn crowd, but a private gym with a dedicated purpose wouldn’t tolerate that kind of thing.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  I stopped going to the gym for exercise after I realised it was just making me more depressed. Why? Because the gym would be filled with scantily clad, disgustingly beautiful, sweaty women and men, and I suddenly feel like I'm watching a mainstream porno being fed unrealistic body ideals and that turns to more self loathing. So I started restricting all my exercise to nature trails, preferly with lots of incline and decline in alternation for an interval effect, and preferably an uneven path filled with roots, to get sort of a parkour thing going. Nature is so peaceful and soothing in contrast to suburbia, and it's fantastic exercise. I drop by the store for a protein bar before heading home and suddenly I'm the alpha in the room, dousing these poor shoppers in my manly musk and showing off how active I am, flirting a little with the cashier maybe, brain swimming in adrenaline. And then it's actually building confidence moment by moment instead of tearing it down. Food for thought for anyone like me who loathes the gym and still is looking for good exercise.
  - idiotsecant 4y ago
    Please don't flirt with the cashier mister alpha man. She's being paid to be polite to you.
    - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
      There's flirting and then there's flirting. There's a smile and some harmless smalltalk/jokes in an interaction that lasts under a minute, then there's making compliments out of left field, suggestive jokes and innuendo. One is completely within the realm of normal everyday interactions, and the other can come off as creepy in those situations. Everyday interactions can feel flirty if you're high from adrenaline and the person happens to be attract(ive|ed) to you. The key is not to try, just be yourself, and interpret it as real flirting that could lead anywhere; they have a lot of these interactions on a daily basis so they usually forget them within a few days. But the fact that's these interactions are so ephemeral doesn't mean you can't derive a little confidence from it. Small moments like this can make a substantial difference over time, just like even short regular walks with little to no incline have been proven to make a substantial difference to health, even if it won't turn you into an athlete.
fragmede 4y ago
You're worried about fake profiles being setup in your name or being in the background of someone else's videos? That's last generarion's concerns. Facebook was opened to the world in 2006. You gotta keep up. Today's fears are deepfake videos from "you".
- onetimeusename 4y ago
  ya, the kids are into being tracked with facial recognition AI by various intelligence agencies and giant, amoral corporations these days so that psychological "profiles" can be set up about them. Also being in the background of videos that countless simps view who obsessively analyze every detail of to defend m'lady's honor and sometimes the video ends up on third party porn sites is really cool these days.
gffrd 4y ago
It’s annoying that this is something you even have to worry about. Gyms are kind of a sacred/vulnerable space, in that they are somewhere you go to better yourself … so someone filming in them and capturing people feels especially perverse. Not unlike filming in a church, and capturing in the background normal people going in for confession. If you haven’t said something to the management, you should. I can’t imagine they’d be thrilled: they should be scared of people wielding cameras within their walls for many reasons.
ddulaney 4y ago
That sounds really frustrating. What I’ve found is that kind of behavior really depends on what gym you go to — in my experience, a gym is kinda like a bar in that you have to like the mood or else it’s time to move on, and sometimes the mood can shift from under you. It sucks to be dislodged from your routine, but it’s a thing you can recognize and adapt to.
- onetimeusename 4y ago
  you are completely right about this.
wonderwonder 4y ago
I hate this. I'm sitting on a bench in the gym and some girl is taking snapshots of her ass for Instagram or something and I'm in the background. Who knows what is going to be said about me on her page. It's the gym I just want to work out I don't want to be on guard about getting filmed.
yonaguska 4y ago
I'll film my wife sometimes so that she can spot check her form. She's a better/more trained lifter than me, so I can't exactly offer corrections myself. And I know at the more serious/smaller gym that we train at, since covid, quite a lot of people do remote training with a coach. This seems to be especially common among the powerlifting and olympic lifting sports. Remote coaching means the coach designs programs, and if you want to pay for more than the programming, you buy a tripod, and send the coach videos so that they can critique and correct your form. That being said, I'm sure it's probably obvious when someone is doing what I'm describing, versus what you are seeing.

temporallobe 4y ago

I see this as well, but in my gym it doesn’t seem to be sexual in any way, so I think it depends on the gym and the type of patrons that attend it. Or maybe I’m just naive and didn’t think of it in that way. I will admit it makes me a bit irritated because I never know if I’m accidentally gonna end up in someone’s shot.

2devnull 4y ago
A dude doing deadlifts is cool. A woman it’s pretty much always sexual. That’s why they get so many viewers. It’s pervos on YouTube or TikTok wanting to see their spandex clad fannies doing squats. There’s no other reason for lululemon than flagrant sexual exhibitionism. It’s easier to work out with loose fitting clothes.
- cyberlurker 4y ago
  Athleisure clothes are absolutely comfortable. It is insane to say that entire brand is only for sexual exhibitionism. Lol Their clothes are also extremely well made and have outlasted similar Puma, Nike, Adidas pairs.
  - 2devnull 4y ago
    Women I’ve known and talked to have told me that baggy sweats and flannel pajamas bottoms are “comfy.” Nobody comes home after a hard day and puts on lululemon to go to bed, or sit on the couch and watch movies. Baggy sweats are the opposite of lululemon; cheap, loose fitting, comfortable. Women want to look good. There’s nothing wrong with that. Men do too. It’s ok to admit it.
- temporallobe 4y ago
  I’ve seen women who could deadlift impressive amounts of weight (more than I was able to when I first started), and it definitely wasn’t sexual. But they had professional trainers that were actually giving them correct advice on how to properly lift without hurting themselves. As I mentioned in my original comment, it really depends on the gym and the type of patrons it attracts. In my experience, an LA Fitness (or something like it) might attract that hookup/tiktok/softporn crowd, but a private gym with a dedicated purpose wouldn’t tolerate that kind of thing.
mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
I stopped going to the gym for exercise after I realised it was just making me more depressed. Why? Because the gym would be filled with scantily clad, disgustingly beautiful, sweaty women and men, and I suddenly feel like I'm watching a mainstream porno being fed unrealistic body ideals and that turns to more self loathing. So I started restricting all my exercise to nature trails, preferly with lots of incline and decline in alternation for an interval effect, and preferably an uneven path filled with roots, to get sort of a parkour thing going. Nature is so peaceful and soothing in contrast to suburbia, and it's fantastic exercise. I drop by the store for a protein bar before heading home and suddenly I'm the alpha in the room, dousing these poor shoppers in my manly musk and showing off how active I am, flirting a little with the cashier maybe, brain swimming in adrenaline. And then it's actually building confidence moment by moment instead of tearing it down. Food for thought for anyone like me who loathes the gym and still is looking for good exercise.
- idiotsecant 4y ago
  Please don't flirt with the cashier mister alpha man. She's being paid to be polite to you.
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
    There's flirting and then there's flirting. There's a smile and some harmless smalltalk/jokes in an interaction that lasts under a minute, then there's making compliments out of left field, suggestive jokes and innuendo. One is completely within the realm of normal everyday interactions, and the other can come off as creepy in those situations. Everyday interactions can feel flirty if you're high from adrenaline and the person happens to be attract(ive|ed) to you. The key is not to try, just be yourself, and interpret it as real flirting that could lead anywhere; they have a lot of these interactions on a daily basis so they usually forget them within a few days. But the fact that's these interactions are so ephemeral doesn't mean you can't derive a little confidence from it. Small moments like this can make a substantial difference over time, just like even short regular walks with little to no incline have been proven to make a substantial difference to health, even if it won't turn you into an athlete.

fragmede 4y ago

You're worried about fake profiles being setup in your name or being in the background of someone else's videos? That's last generarion's concerns. Facebook was opened to the world in 2006. You gotta keep up. Today's fears are deepfake videos from "you".

onetimeusename 4y ago
ya, the kids are into being tracked with facial recognition AI by various intelligence agencies and giant, amoral corporations these days so that psychological "profiles" can be set up about them. Also being in the background of videos that countless simps view who obsessively analyze every detail of to defend m'lady's honor and sometimes the video ends up on third party porn sites is really cool these days.

gffrd 4y ago

It’s annoying that this is something you even have to worry about. Gyms are kind of a sacred/vulnerable space, in that they are somewhere you go to better yourself … so someone filming in them and capturing people feels especially perverse. Not unlike filming in a church, and capturing in the background normal people going in for confession. If you haven’t said something to the management, you should. I can’t imagine they’d be thrilled: they should be scared of people wielding cameras within their walls for many reasons.

ddulaney 4y ago

That sounds really frustrating. What I’ve found is that kind of behavior really depends on what gym you go to — in my experience, a gym is kinda like a bar in that you have to like the mood or else it’s time to move on, and sometimes the mood can shift from under you. It sucks to be dislodged from your routine, but it’s a thing you can recognize and adapt to.

onetimeusename 4y ago
you are completely right about this.

wonderwonder 4y ago

I hate this. I'm sitting on a bench in the gym and some girl is taking snapshots of her ass for Instagram or something and I'm in the background. Who knows what is going to be said about me on her page. It's the gym I just want to work out I don't want to be on guard about getting filmed.

yonaguska 4y ago

I'll film my wife sometimes so that she can spot check her form. She's a better/more trained lifter than me, so I can't exactly offer corrections myself. And I know at the more serious/smaller gym that we train at, since covid, quite a lot of people do remote training with a coach. This seems to be especially common among the powerlifting and olympic lifting sports. Remote coaching means the coach designs programs, and if you want to pay for more than the programming, you buy a tripod, and send the coach videos so that they can critique and correct your form. That being said, I'm sure it's probably obvious when someone is doing what I'm describing, versus what you are seeing.