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Honestly I can see their logic. I think democratic principles fail as the general population gets desperate and votes in their short term self interests instead
by xwdv 4y ago
Honestly I can see their logic. I think democratic principles fail as the general population gets desperate and votes in their short term self interests instead of a long term common good. This is why it’s popular to vote for people who will immediately lower your taxes, damaging as it may be to the governments funding.
We need leaders who can make decisive actions on generational time scales.
- woodruffw 4y agoThis implies that, contrary to all evidence, David Sacks (and Elon Musk) are interested in any combination of "long term" or "the common good." To a first approximation, everybody agrees that we should plant trees for our grandchildren to sit under.
- xwdv 4y agoElon Musk has done plenty of long term thinking. Colonizing mars isn’t something we will see much benefit from, but our grandchildren and great grandchildren might.
- woodruffw 4y agoI do lots of long term thinking as well, but you probably don't want me as your autocratic ruler. I'd like my grandchildren to have a chance at surviving on this world.
- tptacek 4y agoAttempting to colonize Mars is idiotic, as is setting in motion plans to begin working towards that goal. There's an entire continent on Earth we haven't figured out how to colonize yet. This is exactly why we don't want a new Caesar: we'll be hostage to their dumb science fiction kinks (until they murder us for pointing out how dumb what they're saying is, if history is any guide).
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> need leaders who can make decisive actions on generational time scales Blake Masters, a Thyle acolyte, is a literal monarchist. That is not generational thinking, it’s looking at Rome and thinking it would be swell to live under Augustus if you’re already at least a bit rich. I have never campaigned in Arizona, and I donated heavily in Maricopa county in the last Senate cycle.
- tptacek 4y ago"Monarchist", for what it's worth, is a euphemism. There is a more precise term for looking back at Rome and thinking we'd be better off with an Augustus.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> is a more precise term for looking back at Rome and thinking we'd be better off with an Augustus Ha! Did that unintentionally.
- shuckles 4y agoWhat’s the term?
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- skedaddle 4y agoIt's "fascist", classically. For the Italian movement during the 20s-30s this idea was quite explicit. Roman empire was a strong theme in Italian propaganda, with Mussolini fashioned as a Caesar / Augustus type. It was effectively the same in Germany, although less literal.
- marcinzm 4y ago>We need leaders who can make decisive actions on generational time scales. Which works right until their actions are to ensure their future generations have the most power and money while yours have the least power and money.