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This will be looked back at as an example of when Google missed the beat and lost their exceptionalism.

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corobo 4y ago
For me that's every attempt at social they've ever tried. Even the most successful, YouTube, is known for its toxic comment section. Google hasn't been exceptional since they shuttered Labs. Man I used to be excited when something new popped up in Labs, haha. Now it's just.. lame. Area 120 doesn't have the same feel, partially because it's branding is something your dad would think is cool, but also because nothing interesting has ever come out of it. Mostly just "this is Google's version of x". Where'd all the innovation go?
- skybrian 4y ago
  YouTube used to be known for that, but I thought the comment sections got cleaned up? (I couldn't really say. I just watch music videos and it's all fans praising the musicians. It's probably different elsewhere.)
  - johnnymorgan 4y ago
    The comment issue on YT also predates google acquisition.
    - mumblemumble 4y ago
      And applies to basically every public site with a comments section but insufficient resources to moderate it. Remember what it was like when it was semi-obligatory for newspaper websites to have a comments section on every article?
  - yreg 4y ago
    On videos I usually watch, the comments are alright now.
  - corobo 4y ago
    That's fair, I am probably outdated on that one. Fair play if they managed to tidy it up, admittedly I've not checked a YouTube comment section in ages. I'll update my knowledge :)
- dylan604 4y ago
  Whose dad would think Area 120 sounds cool? Area 51++ sounds better than 120. >Where'd all the innovation go? who wants to innovate something cool when in a matter of months the GoogOverloards will decide to shutter it. that's not an enticement to spend time developing something.
  - taylorius 4y ago
    As a 50 year old dad, I can confirm I initially thought Area51++ sounded v. cool, then immediately felt a sinking sense of getting old.
    - corobo 4y ago
      Haha for the record it's not thinking the name is cool that is a problem or anything, the name would be cool to me too at 34 if they'd put anything decent out under it, it's knowing if you're in business for a while you've got to start targeting the next generation's vocabulary! Idk call it Google Poggers or something (I never said I had the answers, hah)
- kubb 4y ago
  There is no meaningful innovation at Google. All of the super smart VPs with hundred-million salaries and business ventures amounted to nothing except an inefficient way to consume the ad revenue. Like many a big organisation, it's been taken over by the managerial class, which will strangle any efforts at innovation, and prefer keeping things the way they are.
DonHopkins 4y ago
A Pissed Off Tutorial For Google Wave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4RKRLaSug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4RKRLaSug >Josh from the Game Helpin' Squad actually tries to get some work done. Or, rather, he complains about how people didn't appreciate it when he got some work done. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (7/10) Movie CLIP - The High Water Mark (1998) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUgs2O7Okqc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUgs2O7Okqc >Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Has it been five years? Six? It seems like a lifetime, the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. But no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time in the world. Whatever it meant. >There was madness in any direction, at any hour. You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. >And that, I think, was the handle -- that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply prevail. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. >So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark -- that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
- 1shooner 4y ago
  Google Wave was always so condescending about users 'not getting it', but now we have it, it's called Microsoft Teams, and everyone I work with hates it and prefers email.
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For me that's every attempt at social they've ever tried. Even the most successful, YouTube, is known for its toxic comment section. Google hasn't been exceptional since they shuttered Labs. Man I used to be excited when something new popped up in Labs, haha. Now it's just.. lame. Area 120 doesn't have the same feel, partially because it's branding is something your dad would think is cool, but also because nothing interesting has ever come out of it. Mostly just "this is Google's version of x". Where'd all the innovation go?

skybrian 4y ago
YouTube used to be known for that, but I thought the comment sections got cleaned up? (I couldn't really say. I just watch music videos and it's all fans praising the musicians. It's probably different elsewhere.)
- johnnymorgan 4y ago
  The comment issue on YT also predates google acquisition.
  - mumblemumble 4y ago
    And applies to basically every public site with a comments section but insufficient resources to moderate it. Remember what it was like when it was semi-obligatory for newspaper websites to have a comments section on every article?
- yreg 4y ago
  On videos I usually watch, the comments are alright now.
- corobo 4y ago
  That's fair, I am probably outdated on that one. Fair play if they managed to tidy it up, admittedly I've not checked a YouTube comment section in ages. I'll update my knowledge :)
dylan604 4y ago
Whose dad would think Area 120 sounds cool? Area 51++ sounds better than 120. >Where'd all the innovation go? who wants to innovate something cool when in a matter of months the GoogOverloards will decide to shutter it. that's not an enticement to spend time developing something.
- taylorius 4y ago
  As a 50 year old dad, I can confirm I initially thought Area51++ sounded v. cool, then immediately felt a sinking sense of getting old.
  - corobo 4y ago
    Haha for the record it's not thinking the name is cool that is a problem or anything, the name would be cool to me too at 34 if they'd put anything decent out under it, it's knowing if you're in business for a while you've got to start targeting the next generation's vocabulary! Idk call it Google Poggers or something (I never said I had the answers, hah)
kubb 4y ago
There is no meaningful innovation at Google. All of the super smart VPs with hundred-million salaries and business ventures amounted to nothing except an inefficient way to consume the ad revenue. Like many a big organisation, it's been taken over by the managerial class, which will strangle any efforts at innovation, and prefer keeping things the way they are.

DonHopkins 4y ago

A Pissed Off Tutorial For Google Wave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4RKRLaSug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4RKRLaSug >Josh from the Game Helpin' Squad actually tries to get some work done. Or, rather, he complains about how people didn't appreciate it when he got some work done. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (7/10) Movie CLIP - The High Water Mark (1998) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUgs2O7Okqc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUgs2O7Okqc >Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Has it been five years? Six? It seems like a lifetime, the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. But no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time in the world. Whatever it meant. >There was madness in any direction, at any hour. You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. >And that, I think, was the handle -- that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply prevail. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. >So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark -- that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.

1shooner 4y ago
Google Wave was always so condescending about users 'not getting it', but now we have it, it's called Microsoft Teams, and everyone I work with hates it and prefers email.

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