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Tipping Is Weird Now

13 points by fortran77 4y ago

clouddrover 4y ago
> For years, I’ve happily subscribed to the practice of throwing down at least 20 percent almost anytime the little iPad spins my direction ... If you can afford a $7 latte, they argued, why are you bristling at a $1 tip that would help your server? If the extra $1 constitutes the "true" price then why not set that price and get rid of the tip? Tipping is stupid. It's much better to have employers pay employees properly in the first place.
- ksaj 4y ago
  Personally I think bosses like it because they don't have to pay their part of payroll taxes on it. Employees like it because they don't have to pay income tax on it. So, it's a tax scam at best. Instead, as a few (and you) have said, just pay them right to begin with. Tax shouldn't feel like gouging if you're getting paid appropriately anyway. Another way to look at it: Why force these people to cheat on taxes while letting the rich not pay taxes at all?
  - patrick451 4y ago
    The tax argument certainly made sense when most people payed cash, but when it all goes through credit cards, doesn't that force reporting?
  - fortran77 4y ago
    This is dishonest flame bait. Nobody is being "forced" to cheat on taxes and the majority of "rich" people, save for smugglers and organized criminals, don't have any income that the Government doesn't know about.
lucasyvas 4y ago
I live in Canada. Tipping has reached ludicrous levels with many places starting at 25% by default when you pay. You can tip at Subway now. Like, I get it, but really? Why can't you tip the person putting your order together at McDonald's? What can't you tip for, hypothetically speaking? Can you tip the programmers on top of the subscription fee you pay for a SaaS product? It's just lunacy. Pay your workers, bake it into the price. If you can't compete we seek service elsewhere. Europe has a much more sane tipping culture, and VAT included in pricing to boot. There is zero transparency about how much things cost these days and it frustrates everyone. How can we even discuss sustainability of wages and cost of living if it's so obfuscated nobody knows what the baseline is? If everyone stopped tipping the wait staff at once this country would literally implode.
- beckler 4y ago
  Definitely not just in Canada. Used to be that places I frequented with a touchscreen cash register had preset tips of 15%, 18% and 20%... now, the lowest choice is usually 20%.
matt-attack 4y ago
I find the new(ish) touchscreen tipping so offensive. Defaults at 25% is not uncommon. I’ve switched to cash now to just avoid the whole thing. Can we hear from service workers? Are you guys just making bank now?
haspoken 4y ago
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13 points by fortran77 4y ago

> For years, I’ve happily subscribed to the practice of throwing down at least 20 percent almost anytime the little iPad spins my direction ... If you can afford a $7 latte, they argued, why are you bristling at a $1 tip that would help your server? If the extra $1 constitutes the "true" price then why not set that price and get rid of the tip? Tipping is stupid. It's much better to have employers pay employees properly in the first place.

ksaj 4y ago
Personally I think bosses like it because they don't have to pay their part of payroll taxes on it. Employees like it because they don't have to pay income tax on it. So, it's a tax scam at best. Instead, as a few (and you) have said, just pay them right to begin with. Tax shouldn't feel like gouging if you're getting paid appropriately anyway. Another way to look at it: Why force these people to cheat on taxes while letting the rich not pay taxes at all?
- patrick451 4y ago
  The tax argument certainly made sense when most people payed cash, but when it all goes through credit cards, doesn't that force reporting?
- fortran77 4y ago
  This is dishonest flame bait. Nobody is being "forced" to cheat on taxes and the majority of "rich" people, save for smugglers and organized criminals, don't have any income that the Government doesn't know about.

lucasyvas 4y ago

I live in Canada. Tipping has reached ludicrous levels with many places starting at 25% by default when you pay. You can tip at Subway now. Like, I get it, but really? Why can't you tip the person putting your order together at McDonald's? What can't you tip for, hypothetically speaking? Can you tip the programmers on top of the subscription fee you pay for a SaaS product? It's just lunacy. Pay your workers, bake it into the price. If you can't compete we seek service elsewhere. Europe has a much more sane tipping culture, and VAT included in pricing to boot. There is zero transparency about how much things cost these days and it frustrates everyone. How can we even discuss sustainability of wages and cost of living if it's so obfuscated nobody knows what the baseline is? If everyone stopped tipping the wait staff at once this country would literally implode.

beckler 4y ago
Definitely not just in Canada. Used to be that places I frequented with a touchscreen cash register had preset tips of 15%, 18% and 20%... now, the lowest choice is usually 20%.

matt-attack 4y ago

I find the new(ish) touchscreen tipping so offensive. Defaults at 25% is not uncommon. I’ve switched to cash now to just avoid the whole thing. Can we hear from service workers? Are you guys just making bank now?

haspoken 4y ago

https://archive.is/jHKPI https://archive.is/jHKPI

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