I am not a biologist, but I have read Maturana and Varela (originators of autopoesis), and they are not that naive. If there’s anything they do understand, it i

I am not a biologist, but I have read Maturana and Varela (originators of autopoesis), and they are not that naive. If there’s anything they do understand, it is the co-development of things over time in mutual relationship, ie structural coupling.