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I don't think so. Yes, he led Apple to become a $1T company, but making money doesn't make someone a bozo alone. If anything compromises Apple products, in 90%

by yreg 4y ago

I don't think so. Yes, he led Apple to become a $1T company, but making money doesn't make someone a bozo alone. If anything compromises Apple products, in 90% of cases it's Apple's design philosophy or (stubborn?) ideals. Not a push from the spreadsheet bozos. For better or worse, I think Tim managed to keep the product side of the company very close to what Steve wanted.

jhickok 4y ago
One of the concerns I have, and I believe Steve shared, is the dilution of their offerings. I'm frankly having a hard time navigating their iPad and Mac offerings. It isn't clear where each of their products sit, and it's certainly going to be very confusing to non-enthusiasts who have the grit to swim thru it all. Similarly, someone explain the 13in Macbook Pro? Why is it still here and getting updates? It seems to me that they are just making all possible combinations of their products, and Steve hated that.
- yreg 4y ago
  I'm with you on that, but it's very far from how bad it could be - just take a look at the other computer manufacturers. And the trend of making the product lineup more convoluted doesn't seem to be steep (it happens slowly and over time), so I'm not too worried. It seems there is time to steer it back before it gets too ridiculous.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    It seems to be mostly a case of, as various product sets evolve, you sometimes end up with adjacent products that are probably too similar. This has happened with the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro at various times. In general, Apple seems a lot more guilty of being slow to upgrade niche segments (smaller laptops, high-end desktops, smaller phones) than the other way around.
- dmix 4y ago
  iPhone 14 Pro Max sounds anti-Apple to me for some reason. Like a tamer version of "Mountain Dew Ultimate Extreme" I'm not sure personally what a better name scheme would be to differentiate it but "Pro" and "Max" together sounds funny.
- threeseed 4y ago
  MKBHD perfectly describes Apple's product strategy and why it has been so profitable for them. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XeDPwpIFs-I https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XeDPwpIFs-I
  - jhickok 4y ago
    Thanks, this does seem right to me.
Nullabillity 4y ago
Steve repeatedly vetoed any kind of expandability on the original Mac[0]. And he tried to sabotage the memory layout because he thought it looked ugly[1]. There was never any "good" Apple, it was rotten from the very core. And that's just from a user perspective, nevermind what a toxic and abusive employer he has been shown to be over the years. [0]: https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Diagnostic_Port.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor... [1]: https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=PC_Board_Esthetics.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor...

by yreg 4y ago

jhickok 4y ago

One of the concerns I have, and I believe Steve shared, is the dilution of their offerings. I'm frankly having a hard time navigating their iPad and Mac offerings. It isn't clear where each of their products sit, and it's certainly going to be very confusing to non-enthusiasts who have the grit to swim thru it all. Similarly, someone explain the 13in Macbook Pro? Why is it still here and getting updates? It seems to me that they are just making all possible combinations of their products, and Steve hated that.

yreg 4y ago
I'm with you on that, but it's very far from how bad it could be - just take a look at the other computer manufacturers. And the trend of making the product lineup more convoluted doesn't seem to be steep (it happens slowly and over time), so I'm not too worried. It seems there is time to steer it back before it gets too ridiculous.
- ghaff 4y ago
  It seems to be mostly a case of, as various product sets evolve, you sometimes end up with adjacent products that are probably too similar. This has happened with the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro at various times. In general, Apple seems a lot more guilty of being slow to upgrade niche segments (smaller laptops, high-end desktops, smaller phones) than the other way around.
dmix 4y ago
iPhone 14 Pro Max sounds anti-Apple to me for some reason. Like a tamer version of "Mountain Dew Ultimate Extreme" I'm not sure personally what a better name scheme would be to differentiate it but "Pro" and "Max" together sounds funny.
threeseed 4y ago
MKBHD perfectly describes Apple's product strategy and why it has been so profitable for them. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XeDPwpIFs-I https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XeDPwpIFs-I
- jhickok 4y ago
  Thanks, this does seem right to me.

Nullabillity 4y ago

Steve repeatedly vetoed any kind of expandability on the original Mac[0]. And he tried to sabotage the memory layout because he thought it looked ugly[1]. There was never any "good" Apple, it was rotten from the very core. And that's just from a user perspective, nevermind what a toxic and abusive employer he has been shown to be over the years. [0]: https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Diagnostic_Port.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor... [1]: https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=PC_Board_Esthetics.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor...