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Probably not unrelated to the ideological offenses of new ownership.

by pnf 4y ago

hgsgm 4y ago
Ideological offenses like not paying rent at offices?
- SanjayMehta 4y ago
  Sounds like a tactic to get the landlords to evict Twitter rather than work through the original lease.
- mypastself 4y ago
  Other than a lawsuit that’s as of yet unresolved, this seems to be the main source for your claim, from The New York Times: > To cut costs, Twitter has not paid rent for its San Francisco headquarters or any of its global offices for weeks, three people close to the company said. People who believe Musk is being hounded for ideological reasons also believe that NYT is among the culprits.
- pnf 4y ago
  Heaven forbid!!! But why should the mainstream media give a shit about that?
  - nindalf 4y ago
    You think if Google or Toyota or Maersk or HSBC or AT&T stopped paying rent on their offices it wouldn’t be a major news story? It would be because it would have a dramatic impact on their perceived solvency and their share price. I’m quite familiar with the Elon fanboy who says “masterful move sir” when he sees Elon slam his dick in a car door. But you’re in a different category. Your response to dick destruction seems to be “nothing to see here, it’s a regular, normal activity. The mainstream media is persecuting Elon!”
    - pnf 4y ago
      [flagged]
      - ulfw 4y ago
        This is what Hackernews has become. Fox News/Trump sound bites "mainstream media" and insults "you're an idiot". Sad but I guess it reflects American discourse nowadays.
        dang 4y ago
        "Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - dang 4y ago
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    - dang 4y ago
      Please don't break the site guidelines like this. Regardless of who or what you dislike, you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
poszlem 4y ago
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- papito 4y ago
  I don't remember Jack telling everyone to "vote Republican".
  - pnf 4y ago
    Jack was a 3% owner with no real power to rein in his secret police. He was Rasputin in beard only. His top executives mocked him in not-so-private chats. Elon ain't having that and quickly axed the disloyal factions. That speaks to his acumen as a leader. It's arguable whether Twitter has a brighter future as a Blue Team party organ (partially subsidized by the surveillance state), or as a "public square" with diverse views. One bet is that the mainstream media have shit the bed with their partisanship and are now completely discredited, leaving the field open for a new trusted news source. That seems to be the bet Elon is making, at least in public. Doubtless, he has some other business interests tied up in owning Twitter and will have to work out political support beyond the DoD. But it is interesting to see the soft white belly of the State Dept and CIA/FBI exposed. Clearly, his enemies are not the people who control lucrative satellite contracts. Do your own math on that one. And there's always the simple explanation that Elon has some residual affection for classical liberal capitalism, a vestige of that ol' Valley Libertarianism typical of PayPal at its founding (and other 2000s era entrepreneurs and VCs). In this interpretation, what we're seeing at Twitter is partly a reassertion of entrepreneurial ownership interests against the managerial class of public/private mandarins.
- eCa 4y ago
  I think it’s fair to say that ”prosecute Fauci” is a pretty divisive statement regardless of which side one is on.
  - pnf 4y ago
    By definition it's divisive or there wouldn't be sides. I think you mean it's controversial, in which case, it is but only to one side of the divide.

Probably not unrelated to the ideological offenses of new ownership.

by pnf 4y ago

Probably not unrelated to the ideological offenses of new ownership.

hgsgm 4y ago

Ideological offenses like not paying rent at offices?

SanjayMehta 4y ago
Sounds like a tactic to get the landlords to evict Twitter rather than work through the original lease.
mypastself 4y ago
Other than a lawsuit that’s as of yet unresolved, this seems to be the main source for your claim, from The New York Times: > To cut costs, Twitter has not paid rent for its San Francisco headquarters or any of its global offices for weeks, three people close to the company said. People who believe Musk is being hounded for ideological reasons also believe that NYT is among the culprits.
pnf 4y ago
Heaven forbid!!! But why should the mainstream media give a shit about that?
- nindalf 4y ago
  You think if Google or Toyota or Maersk or HSBC or AT&T stopped paying rent on their offices it wouldn’t be a major news story? It would be because it would have a dramatic impact on their perceived solvency and their share price. I’m quite familiar with the Elon fanboy who says “masterful move sir” when he sees Elon slam his dick in a car door. But you’re in a different category. Your response to dick destruction seems to be “nothing to see here, it’s a regular, normal activity. The mainstream media is persecuting Elon!”
  - pnf 4y ago
    [flagged]
    - ulfw 4y ago
      This is what Hackernews has become. Fox News/Trump sound bites "mainstream media" and insults "you're an idiot". Sad but I guess it reflects American discourse nowadays.
      - dang 4y ago
        "Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dang 4y ago
      Personal attacks will get you banned here. Please don't post like this again. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
  - dang 4y ago
    Please don't break the site guidelines like this. Regardless of who or what you dislike, you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

poszlem 4y ago

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papito 4y ago
I don't remember Jack telling everyone to "vote Republican".
- pnf 4y ago
  Jack was a 3% owner with no real power to rein in his secret police. He was Rasputin in beard only. His top executives mocked him in not-so-private chats. Elon ain't having that and quickly axed the disloyal factions. That speaks to his acumen as a leader. It's arguable whether Twitter has a brighter future as a Blue Team party organ (partially subsidized by the surveillance state), or as a "public square" with diverse views. One bet is that the mainstream media have shit the bed with their partisanship and are now completely discredited, leaving the field open for a new trusted news source. That seems to be the bet Elon is making, at least in public. Doubtless, he has some other business interests tied up in owning Twitter and will have to work out political support beyond the DoD. But it is interesting to see the soft white belly of the State Dept and CIA/FBI exposed. Clearly, his enemies are not the people who control lucrative satellite contracts. Do your own math on that one. And there's always the simple explanation that Elon has some residual affection for classical liberal capitalism, a vestige of that ol' Valley Libertarianism typical of PayPal at its founding (and other 2000s era entrepreneurs and VCs). In this interpretation, what we're seeing at Twitter is partly a reassertion of entrepreneurial ownership interests against the managerial class of public/private mandarins.
eCa 4y ago
I think it’s fair to say that ”prosecute Fauci” is a pretty divisive statement regardless of which side one is on.
- pnf 4y ago
  By definition it's divisive or there wouldn't be sides. I think you mean it's controversial, in which case, it is but only to one side of the divide.