I forgot about this, but the point stands, we still don't use energy that we collect to achieving the outcome he states: > that helps poor people not starve wh

I forgot about this, but the point stands, we still don't use energy that we collect to achieving the outcome he states: > that helps poor people not starve which is actually important If we generalise that meeting a minimal bar on the Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, then we're still pretty poor on that front. Thanks for the link, having read this, it's a valid counterpoint against generally increasing GDP as we currently think of it. However a lot of discussions at present don't hold to limiting growth to Earth. What this means however is up for grabs, it could take a very long time to figure out how to practically go further than Earth. It is however probably worth more consideration than modern economics would give it.