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> I suspect they don't add an insurmountable level of difficulty to the problem. Not for you, because to humans, moving, finding things, gathering information,
by usrbinbash 4y ago
> I suspect they don't add an insurmountable level of difficulty to the problem.
Not for you, because to humans, moving, finding things, gathering information, formulating new goals, etc. are common tasks. And we generalized them to a point where we can integrate them with other tasks, even such which are completely abstract to our daily lives like a game where little stones are put on a grid.
But to a machine? Is it easier to make a machine play Go or make it find arbitrary objects while walking around? Is gathering information on its own difficult? Is goal formulation difficult? Is moving through arbitrary spaces difficult? And how difficult are all these tasks relative to one another?
> The claim here is not that algorithmic AI is very [very...] difficult; it is that it is impossible.
As I understood it, impossible in the current research paradigms.
And given the difference in complexity between the task of playing a board game, and playing a board game as I described above, this seems very likely.
- mannykannot 4y ago>> The claim here is not that algorithmic AI is very [very...] difficult; it is that it is impossible. > As I understood it, impossible in the current research paradigms. You can't get around the fact that they are making a claim that something is impossible. If they merely said it was difficult, or the 'something' was something of no interest, there would be nothing here worth discussing.
- naasking 4y ago> As I understood it, impossible in the current research paradigms. No, they literally say that biological "affordances" cannot be captured by algorithms that run on Turing machines.