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The fact that people describing themselves as progressive are fighting to forbid blasphemy has got to be the worst “freedom is slavery” newspeak in the last dec

The fact that people describing themselves as progressive are fighting to forbid blasphemy has got to be the worst “freedom is slavery” newspeak in the last decade. When did it become acceptable for one sect to dictate what we are allowed to talk about? They are the enthusiastic useful idiots for dark age theocrats, the exact translation of our despicable white nationalists and Christian supremacists.

bonbonbonj 4y ago
That is unfortunately a feature of modern-day progressivism. There are a number of other 'blasphemies' that it condemns (that are actually often censored on HN too, in the name of civility) as well. I miss the progressivism of old, where there was more of an emphasis on tolerance even when one disagrees.
- ModernMech 4y ago
  > That is unfortunately a feature of modern-day progressivism. You'll find this is a feature of all isms. Even the free speech absolutists ban the blasphemers when given the chance.
draw_down 4y ago
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spacephysics 4y ago
Yeah the more I learn about history in my spare time, the more corollaries I see with medieval papal censorship and suppression of freedom of thought, and some movements today going in that direction. I yearn for the, looking back, somewhat balanced days where not everyone was head deep in politics, and we could have useful debates about maybe health care or national budget, without degenerating into blanket character attacks. Then after the debate, everyone is at least cordial. Just finished the first season of white lotus. Did not expect to see some good dichotomies of two generations interacting with one another (re: the scuba family)
hairofadog 4y ago
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I would describe myself as progressive, and I think the actions of the university —letting the professor go, if described accurately in the article — were clearly ludicrous and indefensible, and I can’t think of a single one of my friends or acquaintances who would think otherwise.
krainboltgreene 4y ago
> The fact that people describing themselves as progressive are fighting to forbid blasphemy has got to be the worst “freedom is slavery” newspeak in the last decade. Thankfully this isn't happening, so crisis averted I guess.

bonbonbonj 4y ago

That is unfortunately a feature of modern-day progressivism. There are a number of other 'blasphemies' that it condemns (that are actually often censored on HN too, in the name of civility) as well. I miss the progressivism of old, where there was more of an emphasis on tolerance even when one disagrees.

ModernMech 4y ago
> That is unfortunately a feature of modern-day progressivism. You'll find this is a feature of all isms. Even the free speech absolutists ban the blasphemers when given the chance.

draw_down 4y ago

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spacephysics 4y ago

Yeah the more I learn about history in my spare time, the more corollaries I see with medieval papal censorship and suppression of freedom of thought, and some movements today going in that direction. I yearn for the, looking back, somewhat balanced days where not everyone was head deep in politics, and we could have useful debates about maybe health care or national budget, without degenerating into blanket character attacks. Then after the debate, everyone is at least cordial. Just finished the first season of white lotus. Did not expect to see some good dichotomies of two generations interacting with one another (re: the scuba family)

hairofadog 4y ago

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I would describe myself as progressive, and I think the actions of the university —letting the professor go, if described accurately in the article — were clearly ludicrous and indefensible, and I can’t think of a single one of my friends or acquaintances who would think otherwise.

krainboltgreene 4y ago

> The fact that people describing themselves as progressive are fighting to forbid blasphemy has got to be the worst “freedom is slavery” newspeak in the last decade. Thankfully this isn't happening, so crisis averted I guess.