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> does not imply an obligation from me to give any remote fuck I don't think this attitude suitable in the diverse community where there are different ethnics

by ssth 4y ago

> does not imply an obligation from me to give any remote fuck I don't think this attitude suitable in the diverse community where there are different ethnics or religons. People should care what the other find things unconfortable and should be aware that what you think acceptable is may not so for the others. Of course if you mean let them do their own things and you do not mean offense or insult them, I thank you for your understanding. Edit: to clarify what I mean.

posterboy 4y ago
I'm pretty sure everyone is aware that getting stabbed to death is "uncomfortable". I'd certainly not not "give a fuck" if it happened to me because I literally looked at somebody the wrong way.
- ssth 4y ago
  I certainly do abhor any violence when it could be avoided when we respect each other's view and values. Especially if anyone resort to stab others because they feel offended. What I mean, you shoud consider to stop yourself before you do things that controversial. Or do you keep silence if other people do things that you find offensive? Some other may not keep silence and may resort violence, and it is not limited to islam. Once again, I do not like violence or oppression when we can avoid those by respecting each others and talks nicely when any conflict happens. Edit: typo and be more clear
  - natosaichek 4y ago
    We can avoid violence by _not responding violently_ to feeling offended. Being offended is not the same as being physically harmed. Those people who respond with violence to the non-violent acts of others should be censured. Their ideologies deserve ridicule and suppression to the extent that they condone such violence.
Sakos 4y ago
I have zero tolerance for people who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence. This goes for Islam just as much for Christianity. I don't hear much about Christians beheading people over insulting Jesus in Europe though.
- ssth 4y ago
  > I have zero tolerance for people who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence. Those who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence are extremely minority, majority of muslims do not do those things. And "bad muslims" always in those media or news because who would read articles about "nice muslim". So you should know what I mean. And insulting *any* religions is not acceptable and deserve to be punished. As for beheading punishment though, I do not have enough knowledge to comment about it.
  - qsort 4y ago
    > And insulting any religions is not acceptable and deserve to be punished. Why? I believe all religions are a bunch of bullshit. Almost all of them regard this belief as a mortal insult. Should I get punished for that? The only tenable way to treat religions in a liberal democracy is like any other belief. You get full freedom to practice any one you want, or none of them, or even more than one at the same time for all I care, but you don't get any special status or moral authority.
    - ssth 4y ago
      ≥ I believe all religions are a bunch of bullshit. Almost all of them regard this belief as a mortal insult. You may believe in no religion, but I don't think you should say that in public. Especially in front of any religius person you say "your religion is bullshit!". > Should I get punished for that? Maybe if that as insult to others. > The only tenable way to treat religions in a liberal democracy is like any other belief. You get full freedom to practice any one you want, or none of them, or even more than one at the same time for all I care, but you don't get any special status or moral authority. I agree to this point. But you do not automatically have right to insult other's believe.

by ssth 4y ago

posterboy 4y ago

I'm pretty sure everyone is aware that getting stabbed to death is "uncomfortable". I'd certainly not not "give a fuck" if it happened to me because I literally looked at somebody the wrong way.

ssth 4y ago
I certainly do abhor any violence when it could be avoided when we respect each other's view and values. Especially if anyone resort to stab others because they feel offended. What I mean, you shoud consider to stop yourself before you do things that controversial. Or do you keep silence if other people do things that you find offensive? Some other may not keep silence and may resort violence, and it is not limited to islam. Once again, I do not like violence or oppression when we can avoid those by respecting each others and talks nicely when any conflict happens. Edit: typo and be more clear
- natosaichek 4y ago
  We can avoid violence by _not responding violently_ to feeling offended. Being offended is not the same as being physically harmed. Those people who respond with violence to the non-violent acts of others should be censured. Their ideologies deserve ridicule and suppression to the extent that they condone such violence.

Sakos 4y ago

I have zero tolerance for people who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence. This goes for Islam just as much for Christianity. I don't hear much about Christians beheading people over insulting Jesus in Europe though.

ssth 4y ago
> I have zero tolerance for people who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence. Those who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence are extremely minority, majority of muslims do not do those things. And "bad muslims" always in those media or news because who would read articles about "nice muslim". So you should know what I mean. And insulting *any* religions is not acceptable and deserve to be punished. As for beheading punishment though, I do not have enough knowledge to comment about it.
- qsort 4y ago
  > And insulting any religions is not acceptable and deserve to be punished. Why? I believe all religions are a bunch of bullshit. Almost all of them regard this belief as a mortal insult. Should I get punished for that? The only tenable way to treat religions in a liberal democracy is like any other belief. You get full freedom to practice any one you want, or none of them, or even more than one at the same time for all I care, but you don't get any special status or moral authority.
  - ssth 4y ago
    ≥ I believe all religions are a bunch of bullshit. Almost all of them regard this belief as a mortal insult. You may believe in no religion, but I don't think you should say that in public. Especially in front of any religius person you say "your religion is bullshit!". > Should I get punished for that? Maybe if that as insult to others. > The only tenable way to treat religions in a liberal democracy is like any other belief. You get full freedom to practice any one you want, or none of them, or even more than one at the same time for all I care, but you don't get any special status or moral authority. I agree to this point. But you do not automatically have right to insult other's believe.