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The response from a caricature vs a respectful historical depiction may be very different. Remember that in US this happened not a long time ago: https://en.m.

The response from a caricature vs a respectful historical depiction may be very different. Remember that in US this happened not a long time ago: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Salman_Rushdie https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Salman_Rushdie

joenot443 4y ago
It's incredibly sad seeing Shia extremism making its way to North America. This was only a few months ago too. What's even scarier about this case was that the Iranian government issued a fatwa on the victim in 1989, and then Iranian state media celebrated the attack 30 years later.
- rippercushions 4y ago
  Oddly enough, Shias are much more tolerant of depictions of Muhammed, it's the hardline Sunni who really have a problem with it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad#Contemporary_Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad#Conte...
toxik 4y ago
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- viraptor 4y ago
  This contradicts the more nuanced explanation from the article. Did you mean to disagree with it?
- cactusplant7374 4y ago
  But not according to the Quran. There are two masters.
- kergonath 4y ago
  > According to Islam According to a perverted, fundamentalist view of Islam. Islam is much more diverse than Iran and Saudi Arabia. The fact that they manage to impose their sectarian practices as standard Islam in much of the world is very problematic.
  - rowtheway 4y ago
    This optimistic view of the Islamic world is, sadly, inaccurate. For example, as of 2013, an overwhelming majority of Muslims wish to make Sharia the law of the land: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/ https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-m...
    - defrost 4y ago
      This pessimistic view of Islam is equally inaccurate. From your own link: > In most regions, fewer favor other specific aspects of sharia, such as cutting off the hands of thieves and executing people who convert from Islam to another faith. Just as most Christians believe that Christian values should guide the law of the land they live in and just as most Christians don't support setting bears on children that mock priests.
      - rowtheway 4y ago
        >and just as most Christians don't support setting bears on children that mock priests. I’m not Christian (anymore) but I’m pretty sure this isn’t a thing in canon law. In contrast, the major strains of Islam are refreshingly clear in their treatment of apostates and unbelievers. Even a “kinder, gentler” interpretation retains the seeds of this dogma unless it rejects the Quran, which Islam holds to be the literal word of God. If you don’t hold with that, you’re not Muslim by definition.
- jnovek 4y ago
  To clarify, are you comparing Muslims who see depictions of Muhammad as sacrilegious to rabid dogs?
  - recuter 4y ago
    To clarify, you should hear how they talk about you amongst themselves.
  - toxik 4y ago
    What else do you call a group of people willing to behead innocent teachers and murder of 12 people at Charlie Hebdo?
- deleted 4y ago
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- dang 4y ago
  Religious flamewar and slurs ("a rabid dog") will get you banned here. Please don't post like this to HN, regardless of which group you have a problem with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

joenot443 4y ago

It's incredibly sad seeing Shia extremism making its way to North America. This was only a few months ago too. What's even scarier about this case was that the Iranian government issued a fatwa on the victim in 1989, and then Iranian state media celebrated the attack 30 years later.

rippercushions 4y ago
Oddly enough, Shias are much more tolerant of depictions of Muhammed, it's the hardline Sunni who really have a problem with it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad#Contemporary_Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad#Conte...

toxik 4y ago

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viraptor 4y ago
This contradicts the more nuanced explanation from the article. Did you mean to disagree with it?
cactusplant7374 4y ago
But not according to the Quran. There are two masters.
kergonath 4y ago
> According to Islam According to a perverted, fundamentalist view of Islam. Islam is much more diverse than Iran and Saudi Arabia. The fact that they manage to impose their sectarian practices as standard Islam in much of the world is very problematic.
- rowtheway 4y ago
  This optimistic view of the Islamic world is, sadly, inaccurate. For example, as of 2013, an overwhelming majority of Muslims wish to make Sharia the law of the land: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/ https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-m...
  - defrost 4y ago
    This pessimistic view of Islam is equally inaccurate. From your own link: > In most regions, fewer favor other specific aspects of sharia, such as cutting off the hands of thieves and executing people who convert from Islam to another faith. Just as most Christians believe that Christian values should guide the law of the land they live in and just as most Christians don't support setting bears on children that mock priests.
    - rowtheway 4y ago
      >and just as most Christians don't support setting bears on children that mock priests. I’m not Christian (anymore) but I’m pretty sure this isn’t a thing in canon law. In contrast, the major strains of Islam are refreshingly clear in their treatment of apostates and unbelievers. Even a “kinder, gentler” interpretation retains the seeds of this dogma unless it rejects the Quran, which Islam holds to be the literal word of God. If you don’t hold with that, you’re not Muslim by definition.
jnovek 4y ago
To clarify, are you comparing Muslims who see depictions of Muhammad as sacrilegious to rabid dogs?
- recuter 4y ago
  To clarify, you should hear how they talk about you amongst themselves.
- toxik 4y ago
  What else do you call a group of people willing to behead innocent teachers and murder of 12 people at Charlie Hebdo?
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dang 4y ago
Religious flamewar and slurs ("a rabid dog") will get you banned here. Please don't post like this to HN, regardless of which group you have a problem with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html