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(1) Many people don't know that they're "US citizens" (2) Even if you are aware of (1) you have to know of this unique bit of US taxation BS, and know that tha
by olliej 4y ago
(1) Many people don't know that they're "US citizens"
(2) Even if you are aware of (1) you have to know of this unique bit of US taxation BS, and know that that means you have to file a US tax return (something that functionally costs money) to not be breaking the law and so be subject to fines.
(3) Even if you do realize that you need to renunciate your citizenship you have to do it in person, so you have to have the ability to also get to a US embassy, and hilariously prove you're a US citizen.
(4) As the article states: renunciation itself also costs money, in addition to the other costs incurred.
Given (1), many impacted people don't ever actually interact with the US government, and with (2) never occurs to them that they need to do anything. (3) and (4) then add an actual barrier to renunciation, couple with the potential "immigration" impact (Flying through LAX, NYC, etc can become questionable, which is a problem given they're major hubs), means that you actually get stuck in a damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Finally, despite it being ostensibly a legal right, the US government has a track record of denying basic constitutionally guaranteed rights, and renunciation is no different. Because of (3) it's necessary to make an appointment and visit in person, and the US has actively ensured that that isn't possible by understaffing and even simply canceling appointments. So while only ~2700 may have renounced citizenship, the actual backlog is in the tens of thousands.
- refurb 4y agoTo be honest, if you’ve never interacted with the US government you can let sleeping dogs lie. For example if you’re born in a foreign country to a US citizen who can pass down citizenship. You’re a US citizen, but there is no record of it. USCIS doesn’t know, the IRS doesn’t know. Nothing will ever happen if you travel to the US on a foreign passport. I know a couple people in Canada like this.
- olliej 4y agoBut if you ever had a reason to immigrate to the US the process could reasonably expose you to tax problems. yay!
- refurb 4y agoStreamline filing. Do last 3 years of filing and FACTA and you’re good. And if come from a country with higher taxes than the US you’ll owe $0.
- albert_e 4y agodon't travellers to US on any type of visa need to fill up lengthy forms called DS-160 where you declare details about your parents and their nationality, your own nationality and citizenship,answer questions about whether anyone in your family is a US citizen, and then swear that you are being truthful?
- refurb 4y agoSure but citizens of 60+ countries don’t need a visa at all.
- kube-system 4y ago> For example if you’re born in a foreign country to a US citizen who can pass down citizenship. You’re a US citizen, but there is no record of it. Unless you've had a FS545, DS1350, or FS240 filed.
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