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My read is that Apple would very much like to move in the opposite direction where more people are in a locked down walled garden environment. I think if anyth

My read is that Apple would very much like to move in the opposite direction where more people are in a locked down walled garden environment. I think if anything we’ll see macOS slowly moving more toward an iOS experience rather than enabling less lockdowns on apple devices.

joshspankit 4y ago
I agree that they want walled gardens (it seems like the only thing holding them back is not wanting to boil the water quick enough to make everyone jump out), but they could continue that move just the same whether they put macOS on an iPad or not.
pjmlp 4y ago
Many FOSS folks that buy Apple instead of supporting Linux OEMs never got the point that Apple never had a UNIX culture. Macs during System days were as closed as modern Apple devices, and stuff like A/UX were more of an experiment than anything else. The reverse acquisition of NeXT brought some UNIX culture into Apple, but even then, Steve Jobs always saw it as a checkbook item, a detail to make NeXTSTEP relevant in the UNIX workstation market. Apple saw it as a survival mechanism to get out of their crash course. Now that they are better than ever, they can happily go back to 1990's way of working.
- flohofwoe 4y ago
  > Macs during System days were as closed as modern Apple devices An important difference is that classic MacOS didn't actively scare users away from installing apps outside a centralized shop controlled by Apple (which didn't even exist back then).
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    That is the only difference, Mac OS was as proprietary as it could be. Had Copland been better managed, not even OpenGL would ever got a place on it, rather Quickdraw 3D.
ris58h 4y ago
Probably you are right. iOS/iPadOS apps will be everywhere soon. I believe it's already possible to run iOS apps on M-chip macs (I don't have M-chip mac to check it though). So you could just make an iPad app and it will work on both platforms.
- bendews 4y ago
  The developer has to enable running on Mac, but for those that have they run really well. Most feel perfectly native even though they were designed for iPad.

joshspankit 4y ago

I agree that they want walled gardens (it seems like the only thing holding them back is not wanting to boil the water quick enough to make everyone jump out), but they could continue that move just the same whether they put macOS on an iPad or not.

pjmlp 4y ago

Many FOSS folks that buy Apple instead of supporting Linux OEMs never got the point that Apple never had a UNIX culture. Macs during System days were as closed as modern Apple devices, and stuff like A/UX were more of an experiment than anything else. The reverse acquisition of NeXT brought some UNIX culture into Apple, but even then, Steve Jobs always saw it as a checkbook item, a detail to make NeXTSTEP relevant in the UNIX workstation market. Apple saw it as a survival mechanism to get out of their crash course. Now that they are better than ever, they can happily go back to 1990's way of working.

flohofwoe 4y ago
> Macs during System days were as closed as modern Apple devices An important difference is that classic MacOS didn't actively scare users away from installing apps outside a centralized shop controlled by Apple (which didn't even exist back then).
- pjmlp 4y ago
  That is the only difference, Mac OS was as proprietary as it could be. Had Copland been better managed, not even OpenGL would ever got a place on it, rather Quickdraw 3D.

ris58h 4y ago

Probably you are right. iOS/iPadOS apps will be everywhere soon. I believe it's already possible to run iOS apps on M-chip macs (I don't have M-chip mac to check it though). So you could just make an iPad app and it will work on both platforms.

bendews 4y ago
The developer has to enable running on Mac, but for those that have they run really well. Most feel perfectly native even though they were designed for iPad.