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That was definitely the reason I got an iPad. I looked but haven't found a tablet that has the same build quality, performance and battery life. Too bad the sof

That was definitely the reason I got an iPad. I looked but haven't found a tablet that has the same build quality, performance and battery life. Too bad the software is so locked down!

celticninja 4y ago
What do you use it for?.my tablet is primarily used for reading comics and technical books, at which it excels. If I need to do anything more challenging then it makes sense to use my laptop, even copy and paste between applications is a ballache on any tablet compared to a pc. So what is the extra apple price getting you, or more usefully what are you doing on the iPad that an alternative tablet could not do?
- Karupan 4y ago
  Valid question. For me, it’s about being in the apple ecosystem and seamlessly integrating with my other devices. I use it as a second monitor when traveling with my MacBook and use it as a HomeKit hub.
anakaine 4y ago
I'm in the same boat. I've got an ipad pro, meaning m1 and a good enough amount of ram and storage. I'd love for it to be able to run MacOS. I bought it because I wanted a good tablet. I'd just like to be able to have a good tablet and not have to buy a Macbook too since I have decent windows machines anyway. It's a want, not a need, to be able to run macos.
bronson 4y ago
I can't find anything even close to the iPad plus Pencil for sketching/crative stuff. First I tried a Yoga 2-in-1, then a Surface, both Windows & Linux... Then I tried an iPad pro. It's just no contest. The iPad and Pencil always have battery, always ready to go, and there are tons of very high-quality stylus-oriented apps. The other platforms were a laborious wasteland. It's frustrating because I mostly use Linux elsewhere. (that said, the iPad has some idiotic warts too... like file sync is terrible, and Apple makes it so it's basically impossible for apps to fix that. And 30% is highway robbery)
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Next time go with a Samsung tablet.
kitsunesoba 4y ago
At least iPadOS isn’t preloaded with crud and questionable at best modifications like Android on many devices is. One of my biggest gripes with Android devices is that they don’t come with the option of installing plain mainline Android out of the box, meaning you’re stuck with whatever modifications e.g. Samsung has deemed necessary until a big third party distro like LineageOS adds support for your device or someone on some forum posts a dodgy unofficial build. This means that if you want a clean experience your best bet is to be behind the curve on hardware but that’s no fun, particularly if you’re wanting to use the device for a task where the extra power (or lack thereof) is readily apparent. I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them nuke them and put clean Android on them, but that doesn’t look to be happening any time soon. I know open tablet projects exist to fix this and that’s great, but those suffer from hardware that’s anemic in comparison to flagship bigcorp stuff.
- htag 4y ago
  > I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them nuke them and put clean Android on them I'm a bit confused by this statement. 1. What is "clean" Android? 2. How do you put clean Android on a prebuilt Windows PC? 3. Why do you put clean Android on any PC?
  - yardstick 4y ago
    Replace all instances of the word “them” with “tablet” and re-read.
  - Retric 4y ago
    The them isn’t referring to a windows PC. “I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them [a Galaxy tablet] like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them[a Galaxy tablet] nuke them [a Galaxy Tablet] and put clean Android on them [the Galaxy tablet]”
  - kitsunesoba 4y ago
    For #1, "clean" Android is analogous to "clean" Windows, in other words Android minus all carrier and manufacturer junk. For #2 and #3, it's as the sibling comments say; I want to be able to replace the customized versions of Android bundled by OEMs with "clean" Android, even if the device was just released yesterday.
Manuel_D 4y ago
I'm pretty pleased with my Samsung Galaxy Tab S8+. The stylus feels nice and the performance is good. I can even run 3d games like Warhammer 40k mechanicus and it's not too much of a downgrade from pc graphics. All this whole being super thin. Removable SD card is also great. There's some rough edges: chiefly the stylus only charges in one orientation. And Samsung preloads it with a bunch of crap. But I'd prefer it over a iPad any day.

That was definitely the reason I got an iPad. I looked but haven't found a tablet that has the same build quality, performance and battery life. Too bad the software is so locked down!

celticninja 4y ago

What do you use it for?.my tablet is primarily used for reading comics and technical books, at which it excels. If I need to do anything more challenging then it makes sense to use my laptop, even copy and paste between applications is a ballache on any tablet compared to a pc. So what is the extra apple price getting you, or more usefully what are you doing on the iPad that an alternative tablet could not do?

Karupan 4y ago
Valid question. For me, it’s about being in the apple ecosystem and seamlessly integrating with my other devices. I use it as a second monitor when traveling with my MacBook and use it as a HomeKit hub.

anakaine 4y ago

I'm in the same boat. I've got an ipad pro, meaning m1 and a good enough amount of ram and storage. I'd love for it to be able to run MacOS. I bought it because I wanted a good tablet. I'd just like to be able to have a good tablet and not have to buy a Macbook too since I have decent windows machines anyway. It's a want, not a need, to be able to run macos.

bronson 4y ago

I can't find anything even close to the iPad plus Pencil for sketching/crative stuff. First I tried a Yoga 2-in-1, then a Surface, both Windows & Linux... Then I tried an iPad pro. It's just no contest. The iPad and Pencil always have battery, always ready to go, and there are tons of very high-quality stylus-oriented apps. The other platforms were a laborious wasteland. It's frustrating because I mostly use Linux elsewhere. (that said, the iPad has some idiotic warts too... like file sync is terrible, and Apple makes it so it's basically impossible for apps to fix that. And 30% is highway robbery)

pjmlp 4y ago
Next time go with a Samsung tablet.

kitsunesoba 4y ago

At least iPadOS isn’t preloaded with crud and questionable at best modifications like Android on many devices is. One of my biggest gripes with Android devices is that they don’t come with the option of installing plain mainline Android out of the box, meaning you’re stuck with whatever modifications e.g. Samsung has deemed necessary until a big third party distro like LineageOS adds support for your device or someone on some forum posts a dodgy unofficial build. This means that if you want a clean experience your best bet is to be behind the curve on hardware but that’s no fun, particularly if you’re wanting to use the device for a task where the extra power (or lack thereof) is readily apparent. I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them nuke them and put clean Android on them, but that doesn’t look to be happening any time soon. I know open tablet projects exist to fix this and that’s great, but those suffer from hardware that’s anemic in comparison to flagship bigcorp stuff.

htag 4y ago
> I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them nuke them and put clean Android on them I'm a bit confused by this statement. 1. What is "clean" Android? 2. How do you put clean Android on a prebuilt Windows PC? 3. Why do you put clean Android on any PC?
- yardstick 4y ago
  Replace all instances of the word “them” with “tablet” and re-read.
- Retric 4y ago
  The them isn’t referring to a windows PC. “I’d be more inclined to buy something like a Galaxy tablet if I could treat them [a Galaxy tablet] like prebuilt Windows PCs and upon receiving them[a Galaxy tablet] nuke them [a Galaxy Tablet] and put clean Android on them [the Galaxy tablet]”
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  For #1, "clean" Android is analogous to "clean" Windows, in other words Android minus all carrier and manufacturer junk. For #2 and #3, it's as the sibling comments say; I want to be able to replace the customized versions of Android bundled by OEMs with "clean" Android, even if the device was just released yesterday.

Manuel_D 4y ago

I'm pretty pleased with my Samsung Galaxy Tab S8+. The stylus feels nice and the performance is good. I can even run 3d games like Warhammer 40k mechanicus and it's not too much of a downgrade from pc graphics. All this whole being super thin. Removable SD card is also great. There's some rough edges: chiefly the stylus only charges in one orientation. And Samsung preloads it with a bunch of crap. But I'd prefer it over a iPad any day.