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Catholicism has pretty strict orthodox rules and yet has no issue with images

• puffoflogic 4y ago
  Convenient for the power of the curia during their long era of power, given that scripture has pretty explicit prohibitions on worshipping images.
  • cdot2 4y ago
    Catholic orthodoxy doesn't have an issue with imagery. Clearly you have a different interpretation of scripture than the church.
    • 4ad 4y ago
      Many christian denominations have issues with depiction of saints. Just because one of them doesn't shows how farcical the whole thing is and how haughty one's church acts over another. Plus the whole catholicism being "the chuch" thing.
    • TeMPOraL 4y ago
      Catholic orthodoxy is like "European right-wing" on the US political scale: i.e. not very. Catholic Church accumulated a significant amount of tradition and writings on top of the scriptures, so its take on the Bible itself is kind of like what C++20 standard is to K&R C. I mean, the Church is old; there are turning events in western history triggered by and named after disputes about the Church's adherence to the scriptures.
      • skissane 4y ago
        That's a very Protestant take on things, and one which many Catholics (and Eastern Orthodox too) would argue is deeply ahistorical – something which, from a Catholic/Orthodox viewpoint, Protestants do a lot – there is that famous line by John Henry Newman, "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant"
        • TeMPOraL 4y ago
          While I was raised in a protestant-derivative religion, I also grew up in a deeply Catholic country, and most of my understanding of those aspects of history comes from the public education system - so I may be biased towards the "Protestant take on things", but I don't think it's that ahistorical or inaccurate - otherwise the schools I went to wouldn't be talking about this.
          • skissane 4y ago
            In many countries, the public school history curriculum is of dubious quality and prone to bias–a moment's searching will discover numerous of examples of this. The fact that the country has a Catholic supermajority doesn't necessarily mean its school curriculum could not have anti-Catholic bias, since some traditionally Catholic countries have a significant history of anti-clericalism, such as France and Mexico. Your position could be summarised as "the New Testament came first and then Catholicism/Orthodoxy added all these other traditions on top of it". From the Catholic/Orthodox viewpoint, that's got things back to front: the Church and her Traditions came first, and then the Church decided to write some of those Traditions down, which became the books of the New Testament, and then the Church collectively decided which books to canonise as Scripture, and which to leave out. Then, well over 1000 years later, along comes Protestantism, claiming it is dropping the Traditions "added to" Scripture, and “going back” to "Scripture alone" (sola scriptura). However, from the Catholic/Orthodox viewpoint, this whole idea of sola scriptura, or Scripture and Tradition as a clash rather than a harmony, was a historical novelty; and what the Protestant Reformers were actually doing, was just reading their own ideas into Scripture. Indeed, over the last few decades, some Protestant scholars have come around to acknowledge there is some truth in that allegation – witness the "New Perspective on Paul", supported by Protestant scholars such as N. T. Wright, which argues that Luther fundamentally misread Paul, by interpreting his ideas through the lens of late mediaeval controversies over indulgences/etc, rather than appreciating their (very different) original Jewish context – which is basically what Catholic and Orthodox scholars had been saying all along.
            • TeMPOraL 4y ago
  • josephcsible 4y ago
    On worshipping images. Not on just drawing or looking at them.
• NKosmatos 4y ago
  I wasn’t referring to images, but to all religious rules in general (fasting, marriage, relationships, worship rules, technology, rituals, calendars…whatever…). It’s a bad thing to mix religions with logic and especially science :-)
  • cdot2 4y ago
    I would disagree and say that having various rules that you keep can improve quality of life substantially. Licentious people are generally not happy in the long term.
  • throwoutway 4y ago
    Louis Pasteur, Schrödinger, Godel, Bacon, Newton, Maxwell, etc would disagree with you.