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> people still writing "C/C++" often reveal that they don't have a clue about either. How about "Java/Groovy" or "C#/VB"? C++ and C are related enought to writ

> people still writing "C/C++" often reveal that they don't have a clue about either. How about "Java/Groovy" or "C#/VB"? C++ and C are related enought to write that I think. Especially since it is common to mix the languages in projects.

nextaccountic 4y ago
I think you're right. For example, I think Android apps written in Java/Kotlin are better than apps written in web technologies
tialaramex 4y ago
I think the things that particularly gets people angry are: - When someone says "C/C++ Programmer" but they actually mean either a C programmer, or a C++ programmer, and hey, it's all the same right ? This is obviously related to the general cluelessness of recruiters. The 19 year old wide boy recruiting people for your bank will try to bring in an experienced embedded C programmer to interview for a post on your 5MLOC C++ line of business application, and they also aren't clear on the difference between Mystic Meg (an Astrologer) and Edwin Hubble (an Astronomer). It's also infuriating when people who supposedly know either language describe themselves this way. If you actually know C or C++ fairly well, you should know they're different in important ways and it's unlikely you actually know both equally well. - When a project/app/whatever is described as written in "C/C++" but almost always this means either, "It's actually C++ but a few files are technically not using any features exclusive to C++ so I guess a C programmer could understand them" (that's just C++) or "It's actually C, but we did compile it with g++ and that worked". If we saw Firefox referred to routinely as being "C/Javascript/C++/Rust/Python/Assembler" then I don't think you'd see as big a reaction to C/C++ but people will act as though "obviously" somehow the C and C++ in Firefox are basically interchangeable, but the Python and Javascript are not.

nextaccountic 4y ago

I think you're right. For example, I think Android apps written in Java/Kotlin are better than apps written in web technologies

tialaramex 4y ago

I think the things that particularly gets people angry are: - When someone says "C/C++ Programmer" but they actually mean either a C programmer, or a C++ programmer, and hey, it's all the same right ? This is obviously related to the general cluelessness of recruiters. The 19 year old wide boy recruiting people for your bank will try to bring in an experienced embedded C programmer to interview for a post on your 5MLOC C++ line of business application, and they also aren't clear on the difference between Mystic Meg (an Astrologer) and Edwin Hubble (an Astronomer). It's also infuriating when people who supposedly know either language describe themselves this way. If you actually know C or C++ fairly well, you should know they're different in important ways and it's unlikely you actually know both equally well. - When a project/app/whatever is described as written in "C/C++" but almost always this means either, "It's actually C++ but a few files are technically not using any features exclusive to C++ so I guess a C programmer could understand them" (that's just C++) or "It's actually C, but we did compile it with g++ and that worked". If we saw Firefox referred to routinely as being "C/Javascript/C++/Rust/Python/Assembler" then I don't think you'd see as big a reaction to C/C++ but people will act as though "obviously" somehow the C and C++ in Firefox are basically interchangeable, but the Python and Javascript are not.