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Well phones typically have physical buttons for things you want to do quickly (volume rocker, power, camera shutter, home (sometimes) etc.) when you may not be

Well phones typically have physical buttons for things you want to do quickly (volume rocker, power, camera shutter, home (sometimes) etc.) when you may not be expected to be looking at the phone. They seem to understand the split. A driver has only a few things they need to do while driving (beyond paying attention to the road) Menu diving to turn up the AC is just a fundamentally terrible idea, but car makers don't seem to care? I saw a recent Marques Brownlee review of his $130k Tesla S and Every. Single. Control. in the interior is a capacitive button. Absolutely insane to offer no tactile feedback https://youtu.be/34VZzBWBDN0 https://youtu.be/34VZzBWBDN0

TekMol 4y ago
The driver only needs to pay attention to the road when the software can't safely handle the situation. Software can already keep the car in the lane and at a distance to the car in front. Over time the situations it can handle will become more and more.
- beardedwizard 4y ago
  The problem is that this is not actually happening. Tesla fsd is still a huge problem.
  - cycrutchfield 4y ago
    They weren’t talking about Tesla FSD
    - acdha 4y ago
      What they were talking about requires FSD. Car manufacturers have been adding various assistive features but none of them are at the level where it’s safe to direct your attention away from the road.
      - TekMol 4y ago
        In Germany, Mercedes has a license to sell full self driving cars (the driver can write emails, watch movies, do whatever they like) that are allowed to enable FSD mode while on the highway and driving up to 60 km/h.
        acdha 4y ago
        They have L3 on the easiest road environment possible and even that’s limited in speed and requires good weather and nothing like tunnels or construction zones. That is a far cry from saying that their cars no longer need good controls for drivers — L3 is predicated on the driver being available to take over at any time. My position is that cars should be optimized for safe driving until they hit L5 and we’re comfortable saying they don’t need a human driver. It’s one of the most dangerous things we do and should be treated that way.
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TekMol 4y ago

The driver only needs to pay attention to the road when the software can't safely handle the situation. Software can already keep the car in the lane and at a distance to the car in front. Over time the situations it can handle will become more and more.

beardedwizard 4y ago
The problem is that this is not actually happening. Tesla fsd is still a huge problem.
- cycrutchfield 4y ago
  They weren’t talking about Tesla FSD
  - acdha 4y ago
    What they were talking about requires FSD. Car manufacturers have been adding various assistive features but none of them are at the level where it’s safe to direct your attention away from the road.
    - TekMol 4y ago
      In Germany, Mercedes has a license to sell full self driving cars (the driver can write emails, watch movies, do whatever they like) that are allowed to enable FSD mode while on the highway and driving up to 60 km/h.
      - acdha 4y ago
        They have L3 on the easiest road environment possible and even that’s limited in speed and requires good weather and nothing like tunnels or construction zones. That is a far cry from saying that their cars no longer need good controls for drivers — L3 is predicated on the driver being available to take over at any time. My position is that cars should be optimized for safe driving until they hit L5 and we’re comfortable saying they don’t need a human driver. It’s one of the most dangerous things we do and should be treated that way.
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