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Does the same logic apply to the lemmy developers who are openly hardline tankies and do not hide their fondness of Stalinism-Marxism? Because I'd rather just i

Does the same logic apply to the lemmy developers who are openly hardline tankies and do not hide their fondness of Stalinism-Marxism? Because I'd rather just ignore all that bullshit and use their software instead of being beholden to reddit.

mrtksn 4y ago
Why wouldn't it apply? Is anyone forced to contribute to project of developers with any kind of ideology? In the reality I live, people ignore or care about whatever they want. How does your reality look like?
- rglullis 4y ago
  > Is anyone forced to contribute to project of developers with any kind of ideology? Not even talking about contribution. I am talking about people trying to boycott those who simply use the software. There are actual mastodon admins who block instances on the mere grounds of having deployed soapbox.
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    So? Do you think that some people are entitled of audience and their right for audience is taken away? Maybe this SJW culture went too far, I think it's time to push back against stuff like right for audience. Just let people make their own decisions. If they don't want to be involved(use or contribute) in this piece of software for whatever reason, people must be free to do so.
    - rglullis 4y ago
      I don't know which side of the argument you are taking. Yes, I totally think that the SJW went too far, and I think that those blocking ActivityPub servers on the grounds of "this server uses software written by a 'bad' person, therefore the admin is guilty by association" is one example of that.
      - wut42 4y ago
        The guilt by association -which Pleroma suffered of at some point and probably still does, too- exists. I kinda think it's fine in the end. You are free to not use an instance that uses that kind of blocks. I kinda get why they exist, like many Soapbox instances users are actually trolls and stuff. It's a bad way to protect yourself from unwanted content, but it can make sense.
ohgodplsno 4y ago
Lots to unfold here, but clearly you have a lot to learn to get some political culture. - Yes. Disagree with tankies ? Don't help them write their software either. Tankies are absolute morons and a joke to much of the left. Don't like working with transphobes and people with ideologies fresh out of the 30s ? Don't help them write their software either. Unless you don't mind your name being a few lines under <notorious fascist> in the contributor list. - Stalinism-Marxism ? Please stop letting Ronald Reagan write your history books, it's just Stalinism, which has followed Marxism-Leninism. Stalin was a notorious denier of Marx's theories. Ask Trotsky about that. - Sure, use their software if it doesn't bother you. But pretending that it does not contribute to spread also the ideologies by giving them more importance is clueless.

mrtksn 4y ago

Why wouldn't it apply? Is anyone forced to contribute to project of developers with any kind of ideology? In the reality I live, people ignore or care about whatever they want. How does your reality look like?

rglullis 4y ago
> Is anyone forced to contribute to project of developers with any kind of ideology? Not even talking about contribution. I am talking about people trying to boycott those who simply use the software. There are actual mastodon admins who block instances on the mere grounds of having deployed soapbox.
- mrtksn 4y ago
  So? Do you think that some people are entitled of audience and their right for audience is taken away? Maybe this SJW culture went too far, I think it's time to push back against stuff like right for audience. Just let people make their own decisions. If they don't want to be involved(use or contribute) in this piece of software for whatever reason, people must be free to do so.
  - rglullis 4y ago
    I don't know which side of the argument you are taking. Yes, I totally think that the SJW went too far, and I think that those blocking ActivityPub servers on the grounds of "this server uses software written by a 'bad' person, therefore the admin is guilty by association" is one example of that.
    - wut42 4y ago
      The guilt by association -which Pleroma suffered of at some point and probably still does, too- exists. I kinda think it's fine in the end. You are free to not use an instance that uses that kind of blocks. I kinda get why they exist, like many Soapbox instances users are actually trolls and stuff. It's a bad way to protect yourself from unwanted content, but it can make sense.

ohgodplsno 4y ago

Lots to unfold here, but clearly you have a lot to learn to get some political culture. - Yes. Disagree with tankies ? Don't help them write their software either. Tankies are absolute morons and a joke to much of the left. Don't like working with transphobes and people with ideologies fresh out of the 30s ? Don't help them write their software either. Unless you don't mind your name being a few lines under <notorious fascist> in the contributor list. - Stalinism-Marxism ? Please stop letting Ronald Reagan write your history books, it's just Stalinism, which has followed Marxism-Leninism. Stalin was a notorious denier of Marx's theories. Ask Trotsky about that. - Sure, use their software if it doesn't bother you. But pretending that it does not contribute to spread also the ideologies by giving them more importance is clueless.