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In my opinion, they effectively created a logical dilemma. Either you are against them being granted special privileges because they are a religion (and thus

In my opinion, they effectively created a logical dilemma. Either you are against them being granted special privileges because they are a religion (and thus have to be against that in general to not appear as a complete hypocrite) or you defend that right, effectively allowing every Kopimist to freely share files without anyone being able to do anything against it. Both outcomes are a win in my book.

chc 15y ago
This is a false dichotomy, and not even a particularly subtle one. Do you really believe what you're saying? There is no reason you must either give religions no privileges whatsoever or give them anything they want. Do you think this is the first religion to have an objectionable practice? We already don't let religions do human sacrifice or many kinds of animal sacrifice, we don't allow them to encourage rape — heck, most countries don't even allow polygamy. Nobody takes much flack for any of this.
jonhendry 15y ago
If claimed adherents don't post their personal information (credit card info, date of birth, etc) then I doubt their sincerity. Kopimism and privacy are clearly antithetical. The first information a sincere Kopimist should seek to share is their own information. If a person claims to be a Kopimist and only copies pop culture ephemera, then I think they're bullshitting.
- slowpoke 15y ago
  I'm sorry, but no, there is absolutely no antithesis between those two goals. Hell, that's part of the Hacker ethics: "Make public data available, protect private data."[1] Art isn't private data. Credit card info is. In other words, you are bullshitting. [1] http://dasalte.ccc.de/hackerethics?language=en http://dasalte.ccc.de/hackerethics?language=en
  - jonhendry 15y ago
    What does "hacker ethics" have to do with a supposed "religion" based on free transfer of information? There may be similarities, but a "religion" that claims to believe that information should be free would seem to have no room for private information. Keeping your private information private ought to be a cardinal sin in kopimism. If it's private, then you're not sharing it, but you claim that information should be shared. Thus, kopimism a bunch of insincere, sophomoric rubbish.

chc 15y ago

This is a false dichotomy, and not even a particularly subtle one. Do you really believe what you're saying? There is no reason you must either give religions no privileges whatsoever or give them anything they want. Do you think this is the first religion to have an objectionable practice? We already don't let religions do human sacrifice or many kinds of animal sacrifice, we don't allow them to encourage rape — heck, most countries don't even allow polygamy. Nobody takes much flack for any of this.

jonhendry 15y ago

If claimed adherents don't post their personal information (credit card info, date of birth, etc) then I doubt their sincerity. Kopimism and privacy are clearly antithetical. The first information a sincere Kopimist should seek to share is their own information. If a person claims to be a Kopimist and only copies pop culture ephemera, then I think they're bullshitting.

slowpoke 15y ago
I'm sorry, but no, there is absolutely no antithesis between those two goals. Hell, that's part of the Hacker ethics: "Make public data available, protect private data."[1] Art isn't private data. Credit card info is. In other words, you are bullshitting. [1] http://dasalte.ccc.de/hackerethics?language=en http://dasalte.ccc.de/hackerethics?language=en
- jonhendry 15y ago
  What does "hacker ethics" have to do with a supposed "religion" based on free transfer of information? There may be similarities, but a "religion" that claims to believe that information should be free would seem to have no room for private information. Keeping your private information private ought to be a cardinal sin in kopimism. If it's private, then you're not sharing it, but you claim that information should be shared. Thus, kopimism a bunch of insincere, sophomoric rubbish.