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I think it is a superiority complex. SAP, IBM, Oracle (and many small companies running for ages) are all making "shitty" products, yet, every year, their reven

by dig1 4y ago

I think it is a superiority complex. SAP, IBM, Oracle (and many small companies running for ages) are all making "shitty" products, yet, every year, their revenue is in billions. On the other hand, we have "beautifully hand-crafted products with love" made in the best languages human can invent (your favorite language only HN crowd dicking around), and those companies are barely paying their developers and bills. But hey, their products are auto-scalable, kubernetes managed, disrupting the industry, powered with green, recycled energy, and vegan food with hand-picked ingredients... I'll leave it to the astute reader to concur with the pattern here.

neuronic 4y ago
Did you really have to add a jab at vegan food and renewable energy in there and somehow make this about politics? Where is this weird (and frankly suspicious) hostility against either of those even rationally coming from? No need to act as if "crazy HN hipster developers" (apparently your perspective) are the only ones who don't understand that there is a very good reason why SAP is still used at Apple and Google.
- QuadmasterXLII 4y ago
  The connecting thread through veganism, climate change, and enterprise software is that you can accrue significant personal benefits by causing suffering elsewhere, and you will never have to face consequences for that suffering. In fact, anyone who even shows you that suffering is a hippie bastard
- dig1 4y ago
  The funny thing is that people are easily offended these days simply by including trigger words they don't like to see in a negative context. I'd invite you and other downvoters to re-read my prose again. The focus was not on someone's personal choices but how those catchphrases are (ab)used in a context to promote something "healthy", yet the next month that company will be ready to lay off 70% of their workforce without a problem due to their bad business model. I was fortunate to be in touch with renewable energy companies (professionally and indirectly), and you'd be surprised how unhealthy those things are for the environment on a grand scale. But, YMMV...
  - neuronic 4y ago
    Sorry, disagree. You put these words in your original comment with intent so do not be surprised when people respond to that. This kind of behavior feels weird and suspicious and in my eyes it's telling that you immediately default to calling others out about being "offended" when offending was your intent to begin with. Otherwise why inject politics and talk about triggering? You are doing the framing.
realworldperson 4y ago
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by dig1 4y ago

neuronic 4y ago

Did you really have to add a jab at vegan food and renewable energy in there and somehow make this about politics? Where is this weird (and frankly suspicious) hostility against either of those even rationally coming from? No need to act as if "crazy HN hipster developers" (apparently your perspective) are the only ones who don't understand that there is a very good reason why SAP is still used at Apple and Google.

QuadmasterXLII 4y ago
The connecting thread through veganism, climate change, and enterprise software is that you can accrue significant personal benefits by causing suffering elsewhere, and you will never have to face consequences for that suffering. In fact, anyone who even shows you that suffering is a hippie bastard
dig1 4y ago
The funny thing is that people are easily offended these days simply by including trigger words they don't like to see in a negative context. I'd invite you and other downvoters to re-read my prose again. The focus was not on someone's personal choices but how those catchphrases are (ab)used in a context to promote something "healthy", yet the next month that company will be ready to lay off 70% of their workforce without a problem due to their bad business model. I was fortunate to be in touch with renewable energy companies (professionally and indirectly), and you'd be surprised how unhealthy those things are for the environment on a grand scale. But, YMMV...
- neuronic 4y ago
  Sorry, disagree. You put these words in your original comment with intent so do not be surprised when people respond to that. This kind of behavior feels weird and suspicious and in my eyes it's telling that you immediately default to calling others out about being "offended" when offending was your intent to begin with. Otherwise why inject politics and talk about triggering? You are doing the framing.

realworldperson 4y ago

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