Both, but I find myself having to learn a new ORM practically every time I switch languages and platforms, or just every 5 years or so because new "better" ones

Both, but I find myself having to learn a new ORM practically every time I switch languages and platforms, or just every 5 years or so because new "better" ones come out. Also, I often do not feel I've every really "learned" the ORM. It doesn't act like my understanding of it, all of the time. Either my laziness, poor documentation, etc. So I keep coming back to SQL, even if it means rewriting code I've already written. At least with SQL I know exactly what's going on, probably because I have a lot of experience with it. With SQL I can try code out against the database in parallel if needed. It always works exactly as expected. I get the paradigm so I don't have trouble writing it correctly. I don't have confusing bugs related to saving state vs. leaving it in memory. YMMV.