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I'm glad this testing is happening, even if my (like apparently a lot of people's) initial reaction was along the lines of "duh, no shit sherlock, way to state

by anyfoo 4y ago

I'm glad this testing is happening, even if my (like apparently a lot of people's) initial reaction was along the lines of "duh, no shit sherlock, way to state the obvious". Tests that confirm in general what people were suspecting, or knowing to be true for themselves, are a great stepping stone in hopefully helping manufacturing to stop doing this terribleness.

cryptonector 4y ago
Sure, but the testing needed to have been done before touchscreens were added to cars, not after, not many years after.
calvinmorrison 4y ago
Saab always viewed ergonomics as critical to driver safety. In what world is a hazard button 3 menu levels deep a sane choice?
- lillecarl 4y ago
  SAAB was ahead of their time, I believe they would be successful if they survived until 2020.
  - calvinmorrison 4y ago
    I love saab. I don't think they had a chance. There's no room to be different in today's car economy.
    - lillecarl 4y ago
      A SAAB (It's SAAB, Svenska Aeroplan/Automobile AB) 95 wouldn't be too different from a car of today though, with superb ride quality, turbocharger, proper deformation zones, extra reinforced A-pillars (moose protection), automatic angle adjustment of front lights (when loading heavy in the trunk), FWD. These are things on top of my head that no "regular" car (that'd be Volvo, I'm Swedish) had at that time (many cheaper cars still don't) that "most" cars has today. My father rides one, and the only different things I'd say are where the key and the window buttons are located, the rest is just like any car you'd buy today, except it's 15-20 years old. "It's a human right to feel safe"! EDIT: What I'm saying is, back then people couldn't afford luxury cars, but that market has boomed since SAAB went out. Volvo used to be "the workers car" in Sweden (still is I guess), but they went from being "cheap and reliable" to expensive and like everything else.
- anyfoo 4y ago
  I'm afraid of asking, does that actually exist like that? I'm so used to quickly hitting the shiny centered hazard lights button in my car when e.g. the freeway situation suddenly changes, e.g. as a signal that I had too slow down a lot, so people behind me better do as well.
Gigachad 4y ago
A surprising number of "no shit shirlock" theories fall apart under real testing as well so it's always better to have real data over intuition.
GuB-42 4y ago
Not only it feels obvious, but it has already been studied many times, with always the same conclusion. But more studies are needed at least until people start caring. Still, aviation is a domain where they care, and they are starting to put in touchscreens in the cockpit, but doing so reasonably. That is: the touchscreens are not necessary to fly the plane and they mostly comes in addition to physical buttons, not to replace them. It is especially important in turbulant conditions.
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  The touch screens are just a temporary phase on the way to Alexa.

by anyfoo 4y ago

cryptonector 4y ago

Sure, but the testing needed to have been done before touchscreens were added to cars, not after, not many years after.

calvinmorrison 4y ago

Saab always viewed ergonomics as critical to driver safety. In what world is a hazard button 3 menu levels deep a sane choice?

lillecarl 4y ago
SAAB was ahead of their time, I believe they would be successful if they survived until 2020.
- calvinmorrison 4y ago
  I love saab. I don't think they had a chance. There's no room to be different in today's car economy.
  - lillecarl 4y ago
    A SAAB (It's SAAB, Svenska Aeroplan/Automobile AB) 95 wouldn't be too different from a car of today though, with superb ride quality, turbocharger, proper deformation zones, extra reinforced A-pillars (moose protection), automatic angle adjustment of front lights (when loading heavy in the trunk), FWD. These are things on top of my head that no "regular" car (that'd be Volvo, I'm Swedish) had at that time (many cheaper cars still don't) that "most" cars has today. My father rides one, and the only different things I'd say are where the key and the window buttons are located, the rest is just like any car you'd buy today, except it's 15-20 years old. "It's a human right to feel safe"! EDIT: What I'm saying is, back then people couldn't afford luxury cars, but that market has boomed since SAAB went out. Volvo used to be "the workers car" in Sweden (still is I guess), but they went from being "cheap and reliable" to expensive and like everything else.
anyfoo 4y ago
I'm afraid of asking, does that actually exist like that? I'm so used to quickly hitting the shiny centered hazard lights button in my car when e.g. the freeway situation suddenly changes, e.g. as a signal that I had too slow down a lot, so people behind me better do as well.

Gigachad 4y ago

A surprising number of "no shit shirlock" theories fall apart under real testing as well so it's always better to have real data over intuition.

GuB-42 4y ago

Not only it feels obvious, but it has already been studied many times, with always the same conclusion. But more studies are needed at least until people start caring. Still, aviation is a domain where they care, and they are starting to put in touchscreens in the cockpit, but doing so reasonably. That is: the touchscreens are not necessary to fly the plane and they mostly comes in addition to physical buttons, not to replace them. It is especially important in turbulant conditions.

Brian_K_White 4y ago
The touch screens are just a temporary phase on the way to Alexa.