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This is exactly right. An "air fryer" is nothing but a small convection oven. Most people already own ovens that can do convection cooking. So this very cleverl

This is exactly right. An "air fryer" is nothing but a small convection oven. Most people already own ovens that can do convection cooking. So this very cleverly creates a new category of appliances.

dragonwriter 4y ago
> Most people already own ovens that can do convection cooking. [Citation needed] I can’t find any data about penetrations, but IME it is very common for people not to have a convection oven.
- scary-size 4y ago
  In Germany it is. Everyone I know has one.
  - acomjean 4y ago
    If you can figure out which symbol it is. (My mom in the US bought a german oven, and each nob is a symbol, which means something fan, line, squigly line...). Once you know it makes sense, and this is a case where the internet helps. (symbols like:) https://www.ebay.com/itm/173568522355 https://www.ebay.com/itm/173568522355 but in the US convections ovens are not that common. I had in the 90s the faberware "turbo oven". It was too big for me but it was a convection oven and quite fast. Caterers that did functions at the museum I worked hauled them in to heat food.
- guntherhermann 4y ago
  I don't know of a single home in the UK that doesn't have a convection oven. Where do you live?
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Where do you live? The USA.
    - guntherhermann 4y ago
      Interesting! I assumed all modern ovens are pretty much convection these days but I guess the tech doesn't make sense across the pond (for whatever reason?) From what I mean before, it's basically unheard of to buy a single oven without it being a convection oven: https://www.johnlewis.com/browse/electricals/cooking/built-in-ovens/electric/_/N-adlZ1z0rndr?chunk=2 https://www.johnlewis.com/browse/electricals/cooking/built-i... -- If you buy a double oven then the top one will likely be a "traditional" oven (mine is like this). Downside with convection ovens is the heating element can shit the bed if you manufacturer skimps out on the thermal cycling. Had to replace mine yesterday after only 5 years of daily use, but was a quick 5 min job and £15.
  - klinquist 4y ago
    It's rare for households in the US to have convection ovens.
    - AussieWog93 4y ago
      Do you have gas ovens or none at all? Seems crazy to imagine a giant McMansion that doesn't even have an oven in it!
      - lupire 4y ago
        Gas and electric, but often the convection fans are missing.
        Kon-Peki 4y ago
        It seems so ludicrous that I want to ask if you’re sure you don’t have them, based on my experience of never having lived in an expensive home or actually buying appliances. But then again, I’m sure you are right. Perhaps this is an easy tell - check to see if the oven has convection features. If so, the house was built for living, if not it was intended for flipping.
        Forge36 4y ago
        I checked mine (electric) Definitely not. My mom does on both of hers (electric). I don't recall my last house having it (gas oven).
        dragonwriter 4y ago
        > It seems so ludicrous that I want to ask if you’re sure you don’t have them, based on my experience of never having lived in an expensive home or actually buying appliances. I get how it would seem that way. I think few enough people make home buying or renting decisions based on it, that most developers building (major appliances are often preinstalled) or landlords renting homes don’t bothers with the small added expense, and most renters don’t have the choice of replacements, and most homebuyers won’t swap out unless the old one becomes unserviceable. As a result, American recipes don’t focus on them, people don’t tend to know how to take advantage of them, and the cycle continues. Maybe the Air Fryer craze will chip away at it.
lupire 4y ago
Smaller is an important feature. It preheats and reheats more quickly.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  simply because it is a smaller convection oven
err4nt 4y ago
That's a great description of them, a small convection oven. I already bought an air fryer before I realized/discovered that, and it's a wonderful thing. I know convection ovens exist, but I don't know if anyone I know has one, so air fryers (as tiny convection ovens) are a new capability. And a pretty awesome one too!

This is exactly right. An "air fryer" is nothing but a small convection oven. Most people already own ovens that can do convection cooking. So this very cleverly creates a new category of appliances.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> Most people already own ovens that can do convection cooking. [Citation needed] I can’t find any data about penetrations, but IME it is very common for people not to have a convection oven.

scary-size 4y ago
In Germany it is. Everyone I know has one.
- acomjean 4y ago
  If you can figure out which symbol it is. (My mom in the US bought a german oven, and each nob is a symbol, which means something fan, line, squigly line...). Once you know it makes sense, and this is a case where the internet helps. (symbols like:) https://www.ebay.com/itm/173568522355 https://www.ebay.com/itm/173568522355 but in the US convections ovens are not that common. I had in the 90s the faberware "turbo oven". It was too big for me but it was a convection oven and quite fast. Caterers that did functions at the museum I worked hauled them in to heat food.
guntherhermann 4y ago
I don't know of a single home in the UK that doesn't have a convection oven. Where do you live?
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Where do you live? The USA.
  - guntherhermann 4y ago
    Interesting! I assumed all modern ovens are pretty much convection these days but I guess the tech doesn't make sense across the pond (for whatever reason?) From what I mean before, it's basically unheard of to buy a single oven without it being a convection oven: https://www.johnlewis.com/browse/electricals/cooking/built-in-ovens/electric/_/N-adlZ1z0rndr?chunk=2 https://www.johnlewis.com/browse/electricals/cooking/built-i... -- If you buy a double oven then the top one will likely be a "traditional" oven (mine is like this). Downside with convection ovens is the heating element can shit the bed if you manufacturer skimps out on the thermal cycling. Had to replace mine yesterday after only 5 years of daily use, but was a quick 5 min job and £15.
- klinquist 4y ago
  It's rare for households in the US to have convection ovens.
  - AussieWog93 4y ago
    Do you have gas ovens or none at all? Seems crazy to imagine a giant McMansion that doesn't even have an oven in it!
    - lupire 4y ago
      Gas and electric, but often the convection fans are missing.
      - Kon-Peki 4y ago
        It seems so ludicrous that I want to ask if you’re sure you don’t have them, based on my experience of never having lived in an expensive home or actually buying appliances. But then again, I’m sure you are right. Perhaps this is an easy tell - check to see if the oven has convection features. If so, the house was built for living, if not it was intended for flipping.
        Forge36 4y ago
        I checked mine (electric) Definitely not. My mom does on both of hers (electric). I don't recall my last house having it (gas oven).
        dragonwriter 4y ago
        > It seems so ludicrous that I want to ask if you’re sure you don’t have them, based on my experience of never having lived in an expensive home or actually buying appliances. I get how it would seem that way. I think few enough people make home buying or renting decisions based on it, that most developers building (major appliances are often preinstalled) or landlords renting homes don’t bothers with the small added expense, and most renters don’t have the choice of replacements, and most homebuyers won’t swap out unless the old one becomes unserviceable. As a result, American recipes don’t focus on them, people don’t tend to know how to take advantage of them, and the cycle continues. Maybe the Air Fryer craze will chip away at it.

lupire 4y ago

Smaller is an important feature. It preheats and reheats more quickly.

s1artibartfast 4y ago
simply because it is a smaller convection oven

err4nt 4y ago

That's a great description of them, a small convection oven. I already bought an air fryer before I realized/discovered that, and it's a wonderful thing. I know convection ovens exist, but I don't know if anyone I know has one, so air fryers (as tiny convection ovens) are a new capability. And a pretty awesome one too!