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Disappointed that this article didn't at least give a "tip of the hat" to the dogged research done by Dr. Marie Jackson, et.al., over her career at multiple uni

Disappointed that this article didn't at least give a "tip of the hat" to the dogged research done by Dr. Marie Jackson, et.al., over her career at multiple universities. Here is an excellent read on this subject from 2013: https://cedar.wwu.edu/geology_facpubs/75/ https://cedar.wwu.edu/geology_facpubs/75/

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urthor 4y ago
Says a lot doesn't it. Marie Jackson makes it into the citations twelve times. Otherwise not mentioned by name. Academia: You thought capitalists were greedy for mere money? Come meet academics.
- next_xibalba 4y ago
  Agreed. But is this not an example of a fundamental attribution error? The structure and incentives of academia creates all the credit grabbing and back stabbing (IMO). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error
- trynewideas 4y ago
  The lead author of this study, Linda M. Seymour, worked with Jackson on reference 29, on the mortar of the Tomb of Caecilia Metella, which is referenced repeatedly and the samples from which form a significant part of the hypothesis. That study: https://ceramics.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jace.18133 https://ceramics.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jace.18... Story on that study: https://als.lbl.gov/unexpected-transformations-reinforce-roman-architectural-concrete/ https://als.lbl.gov/unexpected-transformations-reinforce-rom... Jackson is quoted, if briefly, by Science's article on the new paper. https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-may-have-found-magic-ingredient-behind-ancient-romes-self-healing-concrete https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-may-have-... Jackson's work is focused on pyroclastic volcanism. Seymour's work has focused on Roman water infrastructure. Jackson works for the University of Utah, Seymour works for MIT. The linked source is MIT's PR department.
  - johnohara 4y ago
    Thank you for pointing this out. A common thread, and no doubt mutual fascination behind Jackson's and Seymour's research, is the use of specific pozzolans found in and around Campi Flegrei volcano west of Naples.
  - urthor 4y ago
    That's true, I'm not giving any credit at all to the fact the article isn't written by the paper's authors, and is at best a summary.
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urthor 4y ago

Says a lot doesn't it. Marie Jackson makes it into the citations twelve times. Otherwise not mentioned by name. Academia: You thought capitalists were greedy for mere money? Come meet academics.

next_xibalba 4y ago
Agreed. But is this not an example of a fundamental attribution error? The structure and incentives of academia creates all the credit grabbing and back stabbing (IMO). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error
trynewideas 4y ago
The lead author of this study, Linda M. Seymour, worked with Jackson on reference 29, on the mortar of the Tomb of Caecilia Metella, which is referenced repeatedly and the samples from which form a significant part of the hypothesis. That study: https://ceramics.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jace.18133 https://ceramics.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jace.18... Story on that study: https://als.lbl.gov/unexpected-transformations-reinforce-roman-architectural-concrete/ https://als.lbl.gov/unexpected-transformations-reinforce-rom... Jackson is quoted, if briefly, by Science's article on the new paper. https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-may-have-found-magic-ingredient-behind-ancient-romes-self-healing-concrete https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-may-have-... Jackson's work is focused on pyroclastic volcanism. Seymour's work has focused on Roman water infrastructure. Jackson works for the University of Utah, Seymour works for MIT. The linked source is MIT's PR department.
- johnohara 4y ago
  Thank you for pointing this out. A common thread, and no doubt mutual fascination behind Jackson's and Seymour's research, is the use of specific pozzolans found in and around Campi Flegrei volcano west of Naples.
- urthor 4y ago
  That's true, I'm not giving any credit at all to the fact the article isn't written by the paper's authors, and is at best a summary.
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