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Not that it makes much difference, perhaps, but as far as I can tell from looking at archives of the Arabic Wikipedia sysop list, both the jailed Wikipedians (U

by akolbe 4y ago

Not that it makes much difference, perhaps, but as far as I can tell from looking at archives of the Arabic Wikipedia sysop list, both the jailed Wikipedians (User:OsamaK and User:Ziad) had stopped being administrators around 2017, several years before their arrests: https://web.archive.org/web/20161008095137/https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/خاص:عرض_المستخدمين/sysop https://web.archive.org/web/20161008095137/https://ar.wikipe... https://web.archive.org/web/20171031110427/https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/خاص:عرض_المستخدمين/sysop https://web.archive.org/web/20171031110427/https://ar.wikipe... https://web.archive.org/web/20171031110427/https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/خاص:عرض_المستخدمين/sysop https://web.archive.org/web/20171031110427/https://ar.wikipe... https://web.archive.org/web/20180821114358/https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/خاص:عرض_المستخدمين/sysop https://web.archive.org/web/20180821114358/https://ar.wikipe... Edit: Desysop logs (stated reason in both cases was lack of local activity, not any wrongdoing): https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec-rightschanges/ar.wikipedia.org/OsamaK https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec-rightschanges/ar.wikipedia.org... https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec-rightschanges/ar.wikipedia.org/Ziad https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec-rightschanges/ar.wikipedia.org...

londons_explore 4y ago
Maybe the wheels of justice just took 5 years to track them down?
- notart666 4y ago
  It's a red herring from the Saudis to point at the fact that many Wikipedia entries are already heavily modified and controlled by interest groups like their own. Why they would announce it this way is another question.
- slim 4y ago
  nope. justice against political prisoners in such regimes is very expeditive. there's no actual justice, no case building. they just arrest dissidents based on snitches reports and torture them till they sign confessions
slim 4y ago
Also not clear : the relationship between the infiltrated saudi admins and the arrest of the editors. it's not like the editors were anonymous and the infiltrated admins outed them, their profile and edit histories are right there on wikipedia for saudi gestapo to view. there must be something else going on

by akolbe 4y ago

londons_explore 4y ago

Maybe the wheels of justice just took 5 years to track them down?

notart666 4y ago
It's a red herring from the Saudis to point at the fact that many Wikipedia entries are already heavily modified and controlled by interest groups like their own. Why they would announce it this way is another question.
slim 4y ago
nope. justice against political prisoners in such regimes is very expeditive. there's no actual justice, no case building. they just arrest dissidents based on snitches reports and torture them till they sign confessions

slim 4y ago

Also not clear : the relationship between the infiltrated saudi admins and the arrest of the editors. it's not like the editors were anonymous and the infiltrated admins outed them, their profile and edit histories are right there on wikipedia for saudi gestapo to view. there must be something else going on