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That's awesome. Imagine having an AI acting as the judge and another one acting as the lawyer. It would basically automate our court system. But we do need our

That's awesome. Imagine having an AI acting as the judge and another one acting as the lawyer. It would basically automate our court system. But we do need our language models to have a larger short-term memory than merely 8k tokens.

reidjs 4y ago
As frustrating as the court system is, you do NOT want to automate law and order. Maybe it could work for small claims disputes, but imagine being sentenced to jail time without any amount of human compassion or sympathy.
- nisegami 4y ago
  >but imagine being sentenced to jail time without any amount of human compassion or sympathy. This is not new
- verdenti 4y ago
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- ericmcer 4y ago
  My experience with the legal system has been that judges and officers don’t really use discretion at all and hand down sentences in a similar way to an automated system. A judge will not be moved by or even listen to an impassioned speech by the defendant.
- rafaelero 4y ago
  These AI's will emulate the behavior of our current system, so if such compassion and sympathy exist it will be preserved. Also, consider that the alternative is having a system where people are frequently bullied by people with deeper pockets to pay for good lawyers, which is an immense failure.
ryanisnan 4y ago
It is wild to me that any real technologist could hold this view. The more I learn about tech, the less I trust it, and the more I recognize the importance of strong societal regulation and interference.
- rafaelero 4y ago
  Why? People would still be able to appeal to another human court if they disagree with the outcome. Although I believe most cases would be confirmed.
pierre 4y ago
It's sort of happening since 2 year already in china internet courts (for small internet vendor dispute) in Beijing and Hangzhou. In english: https://iacajournal.org/articles/10.36745/ijca.367 https://iacajournal.org/articles/10.36745/ijca.367

reidjs 4y ago

As frustrating as the court system is, you do NOT want to automate law and order. Maybe it could work for small claims disputes, but imagine being sentenced to jail time without any amount of human compassion or sympathy.

nisegami 4y ago
>but imagine being sentenced to jail time without any amount of human compassion or sympathy. This is not new
verdenti 4y ago
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ericmcer 4y ago
My experience with the legal system has been that judges and officers don’t really use discretion at all and hand down sentences in a similar way to an automated system. A judge will not be moved by or even listen to an impassioned speech by the defendant.
rafaelero 4y ago
These AI's will emulate the behavior of our current system, so if such compassion and sympathy exist it will be preserved. Also, consider that the alternative is having a system where people are frequently bullied by people with deeper pockets to pay for good lawyers, which is an immense failure.

ryanisnan 4y ago

It is wild to me that any real technologist could hold this view. The more I learn about tech, the less I trust it, and the more I recognize the importance of strong societal regulation and interference.

rafaelero 4y ago
Why? People would still be able to appeal to another human court if they disagree with the outcome. Although I believe most cases would be confirmed.

pierre 4y ago

It's sort of happening since 2 year already in china internet courts (for small internet vendor dispute) in Beijing and Hangzhou. In english: https://iacajournal.org/articles/10.36745/ijca.367 https://iacajournal.org/articles/10.36745/ijca.367