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Yeah I thought briefly that SD cards could become the new cassettes but they just won't. None of them have computers. Phones, iPads, Chromebooks yes. Everything

Yeah I thought briefly that SD cards could become the new cassettes but they just won't. None of them have computers. Phones, iPads, Chromebooks yes. Everything streams. There's no physical download and share option. Actually... as I write this, I realize you're hinting at something I think exists, in a form: a digital voice recorder. (Aka Dictaphone, since we're in the nostalgia thread.) Edit: And right in front of me is a Tascam DR-40, which is a handheld recorder which takes stereo in (or internal mic) onto SD card. Very un kid friendly but simpler devices must surely exist.

brudgers 4y ago
So far as I have found, there really isn't "a simpler DR-40" on the market, at least one that's widely available as consumer electronics...and I thought surely there would be. And probably because of DRM/intellectual property/anti-piracy lockdown of consumer computing devices. The success of the iTunes ecosystem was because Napster was the statistically likely alternative future for the intellectual property industries.
- marttt 4y ago
  Not quite sure what you're after, but a used Zoom H1 may work for you: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zoom_H1_Handy_Recorder https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zoom_H1_Handy_Re... Stereo recording and playback, SD card, only one giant "rec" button on the front panel, about three adjusting buttons (mp3 vs wav selection for recording, etc) on the back panel, and some on the sides. Naturally, it also has line/mic-in. Notably, it also works as a USB microphone; and I used mine as the audio interface for an old Thinkpad T42 with great success. The sound quality is considered very good for its price. Only thing that annoyed me was the slowness of forward and rewind. Also, as with all SD-card devices, there's still a lag when you switch from one file to another. Compared to the instant-on playback from a cassette, it does feel cumbersome. I miss cassettes, too, even if I don't remember being really thrilled about all that ff-ing or rew-ing in the 90s. I still use my Sandisk Sansa Clip bought in 2008 for podcasts and music. Use it almost every day. 2GB internal storage, no SD card. Sturdy, simple unit, great sound quality. Works flawlessly after all these years.
  - brudgers 4y ago
    Sorry for not being clear. The Zoom H1’s run about $125 new. A cassette recorder is $25 new despite all the additional material and logistics costs. I was surprised that there is nothing in that price range. I wound up buying a Tascam DR 05. It was about $125 at the time. eBay’d a year later. I just couldn’t commit to its interface abstractions and workflow. It lived in the space where the software was motivated toward making design and manufacture easier rather than the use pleasurable. If I have to menu dive every time I use it, why not just use my phone? Or tape since I can use a pen to name things…not scroll through 128 options one letter at a time. And to be clear, not using my phone (or laptop) is why I buy hardware.
- pkphilip 4y ago
  I see a need for a simple divice which has two SD card slots and which can play music / video and copy from one SD to another :).. lets just call it a SD Man
  - brudgers 4y ago
    The RIAA has enough soft power to prevent general availability of such devices to consumers.
foobarian 4y ago
Remember sitting around the radiocasette deck, waiting for the desired song to play? And swearing at the DJ when they interrupted in the middle? Would be nice to recreate that from a streaming service. Could probably literally voice record an Alexa Echo Dot playing some song.
- brewdad 4y ago
  I've used Audacity to capture system audio and record it to disk. Using a Youtube downloader is probably easier though for most music.
- marttt 4y ago
  In my country, a frequent call-in request to the radio DJ was something like "please play the entire song, because I would like to record it".

brudgers 4y ago

So far as I have found, there really isn't "a simpler DR-40" on the market, at least one that's widely available as consumer electronics...and I thought surely there would be. And probably because of DRM/intellectual property/anti-piracy lockdown of consumer computing devices. The success of the iTunes ecosystem was because Napster was the statistically likely alternative future for the intellectual property industries.

marttt 4y ago
Not quite sure what you're after, but a used Zoom H1 may work for you: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zoom_H1_Handy_Recorder https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zoom_H1_Handy_Re... Stereo recording and playback, SD card, only one giant "rec" button on the front panel, about three adjusting buttons (mp3 vs wav selection for recording, etc) on the back panel, and some on the sides. Naturally, it also has line/mic-in. Notably, it also works as a USB microphone; and I used mine as the audio interface for an old Thinkpad T42 with great success. The sound quality is considered very good for its price. Only thing that annoyed me was the slowness of forward and rewind. Also, as with all SD-card devices, there's still a lag when you switch from one file to another. Compared to the instant-on playback from a cassette, it does feel cumbersome. I miss cassettes, too, even if I don't remember being really thrilled about all that ff-ing or rew-ing in the 90s. I still use my Sandisk Sansa Clip bought in 2008 for podcasts and music. Use it almost every day. 2GB internal storage, no SD card. Sturdy, simple unit, great sound quality. Works flawlessly after all these years.
- brudgers 4y ago
  Sorry for not being clear. The Zoom H1’s run about $125 new. A cassette recorder is $25 new despite all the additional material and logistics costs. I was surprised that there is nothing in that price range. I wound up buying a Tascam DR 05. It was about $125 at the time. eBay’d a year later. I just couldn’t commit to its interface abstractions and workflow. It lived in the space where the software was motivated toward making design and manufacture easier rather than the use pleasurable. If I have to menu dive every time I use it, why not just use my phone? Or tape since I can use a pen to name things…not scroll through 128 options one letter at a time. And to be clear, not using my phone (or laptop) is why I buy hardware.
pkphilip 4y ago
I see a need for a simple divice which has two SD card slots and which can play music / video and copy from one SD to another :).. lets just call it a SD Man
- brudgers 4y ago
  The RIAA has enough soft power to prevent general availability of such devices to consumers.

foobarian 4y ago

Remember sitting around the radiocasette deck, waiting for the desired song to play? And swearing at the DJ when they interrupted in the middle? Would be nice to recreate that from a streaming service. Could probably literally voice record an Alexa Echo Dot playing some song.

brewdad 4y ago
I've used Audacity to capture system audio and record it to disk. Using a Youtube downloader is probably easier though for most music.
marttt 4y ago
In my country, a frequent call-in request to the radio DJ was something like "please play the entire song, because I would like to record it".