Fadell also just talked a bit about this on the "On with Kara Swisher" podcast : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/peering-into-the-future-with-tony-fadell/

Fadell also just talked a bit about this on the "On with Kara Swisher" podcast : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/peering-into-the-future-with-tony-fadell/id1643307527?i=1000592603154 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/peering-into-the-futur... He says a similar thing, but the tone comes across quite different.