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Fun and short read, thanks for sharing. I'm not going to be manufacturing hardware any time soon, but I always love random insights into another field. I wonde

Fun and short read, thanks for sharing. I'm not going to be manufacturing hardware any time soon, but I always love random insights into another field. I wonder what an apple car would look like.

midoridensha 4y ago
Probably a lot like a Tesla, requiring you to use menus on a touchscreen just to open the glove compartment.
- gattilorenz 4y ago
  The iPhone still has the tactile "silent mode" toggle, and CarPlay is definitely designed to be less distracting than Android Auto (despite Android Auto working generally better, imho), so I wouldn't be so sure about that.
  - willyt 4y ago
    The driving directions in google maps are terrible though. I’ve been using Apple Maps for a while and someone WhatsApped me a map link I didn’t notice it had opened google maps and I was getting annoyed that it wasn’t telling me what lane to go in and it was too late telling what exit to take on roundabouts.
  - gorjusborg 4y ago
    Glad I'm not crazy. I have used android auto and car play in the same vehicle, and car play seems noticably worse. The top of mind issues I've seen: Car play requires unlock when the phone is reattached via USB. With android auto, I can simply reconnect after initial configuration. Music playback stutters fairly often when streaming spotify. Car play and the iphone more often get into a state where the phone is connected physically but the phone "isn't connected"
    - capableweb 4y ago
      > Car play and the iphone more often get into a state where the phone is connected physically but the phone "isn't connected" I thought this was just me. I used to use Android Auto on the same car I have now, and never had this issue. Got a iPhone some year/s ago and sometimes this happens, maybe once every month or so, but thought the issue was my car or the phone itself. Good to know it happens to others.
  - newaccount74 4y ago
    They also managed to place the only buttons on the iPhone exactly opposite of another, leading to a situation that there is a 50% chance of me taking a screenshot when I just want to adjust the volume.
    - capableweb 4y ago
      Also the reason I have 100s of screenshots of my lockscreen...
      - elzbardico 4y ago
        Me thinking I was the only one!
    - matt-attack 4y ago
      I much prefer when the lock button was on the top of the phone.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    > CarPlay is definitely designed to be less distracting than Android Auto I don't think this is true. CarPlay still covers my entire display (which I use for navigation/GPS normally) when someone calls. How this pass any sort of QA/user testing is beyond me. At least Android Auto displays a little message about it, rather than covering the entire display together with the navigation.
- rlt 4y ago
  How often do people use their glove box that this an actual annoyance? I only really keep my registration and proof of insurance in there, so I need to access it approximately never.
  - pcdoodle 4y ago
    Super annoying. I love my manual, chad meme, glove box.
    - fmajid 4y ago
      I find it annoying as well. My guess is someone at Tesla uses valet parking a lot and overestimated the importance of that use case.
  - henvic 4y ago
    I've my Tesla since 15/12, and keep my garage remote in the glove box for safety. I'm probably overthinking it, and should keep it in the center console, though. Especially because I live in a condo, and dozens of other people have access to the garage anyways.
  - gorjusborg 4y ago
    I can't believe you are asking people to justify why they expect to be able to open a convenience storage box without using a UI.
  - klyrs 4y ago
    I keep all sorts of stuff in the glove box. Pens and paper, nail clippers, hard candy, windshield scraper, flashlight...
pjc50 4y ago
Incredible fit and finish, but it costs $1000 to replace the windscreen because it's digitally authenticated to the rest of the car.
- lancebeet 4y ago
  That's pretty much what it costs to replace the windshield on a regular car, no?
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    A basic car with a basic non powered rear view mirror should only be a few hundred dollars, including installation. A fancy windshield with rain sensors and a powered rear view mirror and blah blah will cost much more.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      Camera systems are more common than not on new vehicles today. $800-$1000 for a replacement is not uncommon anymore. Just went to Safelite’s site and got a quote for a few basic Honda/Toyota models and they’re all in that range.

Fun and short read, thanks for sharing. I'm not going to be manufacturing hardware any time soon, but I always love random insights into another field. I wonder what an apple car would look like.

midoridensha 4y ago

Probably a lot like a Tesla, requiring you to use menus on a touchscreen just to open the glove compartment.

gattilorenz 4y ago
The iPhone still has the tactile "silent mode" toggle, and CarPlay is definitely designed to be less distracting than Android Auto (despite Android Auto working generally better, imho), so I wouldn't be so sure about that.
- willyt 4y ago
  The driving directions in google maps are terrible though. I’ve been using Apple Maps for a while and someone WhatsApped me a map link I didn’t notice it had opened google maps and I was getting annoyed that it wasn’t telling me what lane to go in and it was too late telling what exit to take on roundabouts.
- gorjusborg 4y ago
  Glad I'm not crazy. I have used android auto and car play in the same vehicle, and car play seems noticably worse. The top of mind issues I've seen: Car play requires unlock when the phone is reattached via USB. With android auto, I can simply reconnect after initial configuration. Music playback stutters fairly often when streaming spotify. Car play and the iphone more often get into a state where the phone is connected physically but the phone "isn't connected"
  - capableweb 4y ago
    > Car play and the iphone more often get into a state where the phone is connected physically but the phone "isn't connected" I thought this was just me. I used to use Android Auto on the same car I have now, and never had this issue. Got a iPhone some year/s ago and sometimes this happens, maybe once every month or so, but thought the issue was my car or the phone itself. Good to know it happens to others.
- newaccount74 4y ago
  They also managed to place the only buttons on the iPhone exactly opposite of another, leading to a situation that there is a 50% chance of me taking a screenshot when I just want to adjust the volume.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    Also the reason I have 100s of screenshots of my lockscreen...
    - elzbardico 4y ago
      Me thinking I was the only one!
  - matt-attack 4y ago
    I much prefer when the lock button was on the top of the phone.
- capableweb 4y ago
  > CarPlay is definitely designed to be less distracting than Android Auto I don't think this is true. CarPlay still covers my entire display (which I use for navigation/GPS normally) when someone calls. How this pass any sort of QA/user testing is beyond me. At least Android Auto displays a little message about it, rather than covering the entire display together with the navigation.
rlt 4y ago
How often do people use their glove box that this an actual annoyance? I only really keep my registration and proof of insurance in there, so I need to access it approximately never.
- pcdoodle 4y ago
  Super annoying. I love my manual, chad meme, glove box.
  - fmajid 4y ago
    I find it annoying as well. My guess is someone at Tesla uses valet parking a lot and overestimated the importance of that use case.
- henvic 4y ago
  I've my Tesla since 15/12, and keep my garage remote in the glove box for safety. I'm probably overthinking it, and should keep it in the center console, though. Especially because I live in a condo, and dozens of other people have access to the garage anyways.
- gorjusborg 4y ago
  I can't believe you are asking people to justify why they expect to be able to open a convenience storage box without using a UI.
- klyrs 4y ago
  I keep all sorts of stuff in the glove box. Pens and paper, nail clippers, hard candy, windshield scraper, flashlight...

pjc50 4y ago

Incredible fit and finish, but it costs $1000 to replace the windscreen because it's digitally authenticated to the rest of the car.

lancebeet 4y ago
That's pretty much what it costs to replace the windshield on a regular car, no?
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  A basic car with a basic non powered rear view mirror should only be a few hundred dollars, including installation. A fancy windshield with rain sensors and a powered rear view mirror and blah blah will cost much more.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Camera systems are more common than not on new vehicles today. $800-$1000 for a replacement is not uncommon anymore. Just went to Safelite’s site and got a quote for a few basic Honda/Toyota models and they’re all in that range.