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This is a great idea and I absolutely love it. The only thing I don't like is the branding. It seems to have some political undertones to it. I think combinin

This is a great idea and I absolutely love it. The only thing I don't like is the branding. It seems to have some political undertones to it. I think combining this with a product like crypt pad is a great start towards creating a more independent Google workspace competitor. (and I'm flagged lol, way to prove my point)

camdenlock 4y ago
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- Kerrick 4y ago
  I hadn't heard of Transhumansim before so I looked it up. Wikipedia says: > Transhumanism is a philosophical and intellectual movement which advocates the enhancement of the human condition by developing and making widely available sophisticated technologies that can greatly enhance longevity and cognition. Is that the word you meant to use? It doesn't seem to fit with the rest of your list/comment.
  - camdenlock 4y ago
    I mean it in the sense of rejecting the “constraints” of our nature and seeking to move beyond them as far as possible.
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climb_stealth 4y ago
Where do you pick up political undertones? I'm genuinely curious. I read the whole landing page and it is all lighthearted and friendly, and I pick up on nothing that makes me think otherwise.
- bobsmooth 4y ago
  The example profile includes pronouns.
  - patates 4y ago
    I'm so tired of the constant battle to make very simple, innocent ideas political. Sooo f*ing tired.
    - gnarbarian 4y ago
      like it or not but things like pronouns, rainbow themes, gender neutral avatars, even masks are used as political symbols to signify allegiance. It's opt-in (like wearing an arm band) and allows people who partake to identify political allies and adversaries. Even pointing this out objectively will get somebody steamrolled.
      - climb_stealth 4y ago
        Interesting, thanks for clarifying! Looks like I live in an environment where this is not a thing. Or I'm not aware of it. I'm also not in the USfor what it's worth.
        gnarbarian 4y ago
        You don't notice it because as soon as somebody steps out of line they are erased. my root comment has been flagged and nobody else will even see it.
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        Kerrick 4y ago
        For what it's worth, I can see it and it's been over 11 hours. I find it really interesting what people consider political/apolitical these days, even things that weren't before. If somebody says they like to drink orange juice, that's currently an apolitical statement. If somebody else comes out and says that drinking orange juice is a bad thing to do, and gives a political reason for it, the first person suddenly "becomes political" by virtue of enjoying orange juice and talking about it, even though that wasn't political before. Why should the opinions of dissenters have the power to turn someone's otherwise apolitical statement political? (Now compare that allegory to somebody who said "Since this is the internet and you cannot see me, please know that I'm a he/him" on a BBS in 1985. That was an apolitical statement. But now, saying it on your social media in 2022 it's political? How come?)
crabbycarrot 4y ago
This says more about you than the branding.
- gnarbarian 4y ago
  It's hard to notice anything these days without getting in trouble.
  - stkdump 4y ago
    How are you in trouble?
    - seti0Cha 4y ago
      "says something about you" is a warning shot for a potential shaming campaign. The expected reaction is for the warned party to backpedal to avoid having their defects loudly discussed. You can see it play out in other responses, wherein terms like "decent people" and "old, dead narrative" are deployed. In other words, trouble in the same sense that those subjected to "microaggressions" have trouble.
      - stkdump 4y ago
        What you are doing is interpreting everything as you like, not as it is meant. You paint yourself as the victim when this all started with your baseless accusations. If you don't like people reacting to your accusations, you should not use a public forum.
        gnarbarian 4y ago
        This whole struggle session thread is a perfect example of how progressive values are enforced and advanced. Acknowledging the existence of obvious branding or political affiliation means subjecting yourself to an inquisition where 30 people take turns trying to pigeonhole you as a bigot. again the message is clear "you're not welcome"
        4y ago

camdenlock 4y ago

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Kerrick 4y ago
I hadn't heard of Transhumansim before so I looked it up. Wikipedia says: > Transhumanism is a philosophical and intellectual movement which advocates the enhancement of the human condition by developing and making widely available sophisticated technologies that can greatly enhance longevity and cognition. Is that the word you meant to use? It doesn't seem to fit with the rest of your list/comment.
- camdenlock 4y ago
  I mean it in the sense of rejecting the “constraints” of our nature and seeking to move beyond them as far as possible.

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climb_stealth 4y ago

Where do you pick up political undertones? I'm genuinely curious. I read the whole landing page and it is all lighthearted and friendly, and I pick up on nothing that makes me think otherwise.

bobsmooth 4y ago
The example profile includes pronouns.
- patates 4y ago
  I'm so tired of the constant battle to make very simple, innocent ideas political. Sooo f*ing tired.
  - gnarbarian 4y ago
    like it or not but things like pronouns, rainbow themes, gender neutral avatars, even masks are used as political symbols to signify allegiance. It's opt-in (like wearing an arm band) and allows people who partake to identify political allies and adversaries. Even pointing this out objectively will get somebody steamrolled.
    - climb_stealth 4y ago
      Interesting, thanks for clarifying! Looks like I live in an environment where this is not a thing. Or I'm not aware of it. I'm also not in the USfor what it's worth.
      - gnarbarian 4y ago
        You don't notice it because as soon as somebody steps out of line they are erased. my root comment has been flagged and nobody else will even see it.
        deleted 4y ago
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        Kerrick 4y ago
        For what it's worth, I can see it and it's been over 11 hours. I find it really interesting what people consider political/apolitical these days, even things that weren't before. If somebody says they like to drink orange juice, that's currently an apolitical statement. If somebody else comes out and says that drinking orange juice is a bad thing to do, and gives a political reason for it, the first person suddenly "becomes political" by virtue of enjoying orange juice and talking about it, even though that wasn't political before. Why should the opinions of dissenters have the power to turn someone's otherwise apolitical statement political? (Now compare that allegory to somebody who said "Since this is the internet and you cannot see me, please know that I'm a he/him" on a BBS in 1985. That was an apolitical statement. But now, saying it on your social media in 2022 it's political? How come?)

crabbycarrot 4y ago

This says more about you than the branding.

gnarbarian 4y ago
It's hard to notice anything these days without getting in trouble.
- stkdump 4y ago
  How are you in trouble?
  - seti0Cha 4y ago
    "says something about you" is a warning shot for a potential shaming campaign. The expected reaction is for the warned party to backpedal to avoid having their defects loudly discussed. You can see it play out in other responses, wherein terms like "decent people" and "old, dead narrative" are deployed. In other words, trouble in the same sense that those subjected to "microaggressions" have trouble.
    - stkdump 4y ago
      What you are doing is interpreting everything as you like, not as it is meant. You paint yourself as the victim when this all started with your baseless accusations. If you don't like people reacting to your accusations, you should not use a public forum.
      - gnarbarian 4y ago
        This whole struggle session thread is a perfect example of how progressive values are enforced and advanced. Acknowledging the existence of obvious branding or political affiliation means subjecting yourself to an inquisition where 30 people take turns trying to pigeonhole you as a bigot. again the message is clear "you're not welcome"
      - 4y ago